I ask once again

[willie]

get back to me in february, then we'll see.

[beirmeistr]

The issue is not hating him when his shot is not falling (last year) or not hating him when his shot is falling (this year). The issue is being able to see other things he does in a court outside his shot.

Even before the trade rumours last year, when he was shooting 40% (decent percentage but for some reason not good enough for Spurs Fans), he did other things to help the team. His passing ability, the way the O flowed when he was on the floor, etc.

It's easy supporting Barry when he is making more than 6 3-pointers out of 10 he shoots. But that % is not sustainable (I know, I sound just like whottt )

Good point.

[fraga]

I for one have always loved Barry...he's an awesome shooter...deadly from the behind the arc....BUT HE CAN'T PLAY DEFENSE FOR SH!T...

[ChumpDumper]

The issue is being able to see, when his shot is not falling (which = "not playing well", for some posters), that he has the potential to play well.

The issue is knowing when a guy can play better than he actually is and saying so.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Will Michael Finley now be on the trade block?

[T Park]

putting Michael Finley on the trading block, after he turned down more money to come to SA, would be a bushleague move.

[smeagol]

The issue is knowing when a guy can play better than he actually is and saying so.

Pretty much what I said.

[SequSpur]

the spurs ain't trading nobody.

[Mavs<Spurs]

I hate that sign.

I hate that Houston lost that series.

I went to high school in Houston and I really like Houston.

I also believe that Houston is one of the top 3 or 4 best teams in the NBA when TMac has his shooting eye back.



Finally, I never was big on getting rid of him. I didn't know that he could play this well.

I think that it is just really tough to come in as a shooter onto the Spurs team. Perhaps you are expected to shoot less and you know how great Tim Duncan is and you end up deferring too much. Plus, you get fewer minutes since you are coming into a perenial le contender with an established line up.

Now, Barry is just playing out of his mind. They might want to guard him because he's a career 40 + % from beyond the arc, right?

[Mavs<Spurs]

putting Michael Finley on the trading block, after he turned down more money to come to SA, would be a bushleague move.

Yeah, that would be stupid. I agree TPark.


The simple fact is that Michael has been in the league for quite a while. He has been very consistent in his career. By now, everybody should know that he can flat out shoot and score in this league. He has done it for too long for there to be doubters about that fact any more.

He needs to keep shooting. We all know that pretty soon, he will start shooting well again. It's just a short period and a temporary thing.

Keep playing Michael good minutes and keep encouraging him to shoot and he will shoot himself out of this slump. Every great shooter goes through slumps and dry spells, but they come out of it. Michael will do this .

[Fabbs]

Ah there is that formula again. Spurs can put Barry on the trading block when he is not shooting well. Might wake him up. In fact did.

But we cannot put Bricks Finley on the block. Ever. Even if it's just to wake him up.

[Mr. Body]

Barry's pulling the trigger without thinking now. He wants to hit those shots. That's as important as anything.

[MannyIsGod]

Almost Traded Barry is really bad ass. But really dude did a bunch in 05 to help us win also. But he's taken it to another level after the deal last year broke down.

[whottt]

The issue is knowing when a guy can play better than he actually is and saying so.

Too easy:

how can barry prove his worth playing 5 and 6 minutes?


Make a shot.

Props smeagol, for being one of the ones who see the huge amount of BS certain posters spew.

[whottt]

Sometimes it's not the pass that makes the shot. It might be the pass before the pass,

Some of us have always gotten it...while others? They ridiculed Barry when this was the case and praised him(and others) when it wasn't.

What can I say smeagol...to you and I basketball is not that complicated, and to others? It's way too complicated.

[ChumpDumper]

Too easy: [bull bullshi tbull ]

Props smeagol, for being one of the ones who see the huge amount of BS certain posters spew.

The full quote was

how can barry prove his worth playing 5 and 6 minutes?
Make a shot.

Don't get burned on D.

Rocket science.

Of course I should have added that he should actually take the occasional shot since he was passing up so many shots back then, but you knew that since I said that so many times.

Really it's ing hilarious that you guys are gloating about Barry now that he is taking and making so many shots and asking where are the haters now. You stupid idiots - I'm the one who was saying saying he should have been taking those shots all along.

Barry agreed with me - you turdknockers didn't and said he was playing perfect basketball all along. You were wrong. Barry is showing you how stupid you were to think he could never play any better. you.

[whottt]

Oh yea?

Barry is shooting 21% for December.

Brown 56%.

End of thread.

End of thread


There's more where that came from...but I don't want you having a stroke or saying you wouldn't buy a house from my drug dealing ass.... like that.

[ChumpDumper]

You make zero percent of the shots you don't take.

Look, I know you have an archive of all my posts. The simple fact was Brown was outplaying Barry and it pissed you off. Too bad for you.

Now he's playing better like I always said he could and you refused to believe. Too bad for you again.

[whottt]

Not knowing how to call a timeout=out playing him.


I notice how the Spurs tripped overthemselves to being the Devin show back to SA.

Scoreboard you...

[ChumpDumper]

Why would they?

The roster is full and Barry is playing better, just like you said he never would.

[whottt]

The roster is full and Barry is playing better, just like you said he never would.

Link?

[smeagol]

Really it's ing hilarious that you guys are gloating about Barry now that he is taking and making so many shots and asking where are the haters now. You stupid idiots -

Don't twist the facts, chump. Last year, he was passing on some shots but he was also missing many more shots than what he is missing this year. He was making about 40% of his shots beyond the arch, but that was not good enough for you, TPark, and the other posters bashing Barry.

Your issue was not only him passing shots. Your issue was with Barry's all-around game.

I remember that day he played 20 minutes and produced nothing. TPark and others were all over that 0-0-0-0-0-0 line. The truth is they, the same as you, were unable to see what other things brought to the table.

I'm the one who was saying saying he should have been taking those shots all along.

That's not all you were saying. You never recognized his other attributes.

Same thing happened with the Manu vs Hedo argument. You were blind to what Manu was capable of producing. And it took many months for you to pull that foot out of your throught.

Simply admit that sometimes you are wrong. You are not God. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss. Deal with it.

Barry agreed with me - you turdknockers didn't and said he was playing perfect basketball all along.

I don't think that is what Barry defenders were saying. Barry defenders were saying BHarry's game is not simply shooting (the way Finley's game is).

You were wrong. Barry is showing you how stupid you were to think he could never play any better. you.

You were wrong. You wanted to trade Barry. Barry is showing how stupid you are. With a vengance.

[whottt]

putting Michael Finley on the trading block, after he turned down more money to come to SA, would be a bushleague move.

You mean like Brent Barry?

Or even better, Rasho?

Come to think of it...Malik too.


And unlike Finley, they aren't getting paid 15 mil per season by their old teams.

[nkdlunch]

this will be Barry's best year of his carrer

[Bruno]

I really hoped that Spurs traded him this summer because his contract was quite big and he was quite redondundant with Finley.
Now, I don't think Spurs should trade him because his contract fit well with the 08 plan (Spurs won't sign any big FA before the 08' summer) and because Barry can really be helpful especially when Finley struggles as the start of this season shows.
I still don't like Spurs' swingmen rotation because of the lack of a long SF. I now think that Spurs should just sign a long SF with a marginal talent (a player like Matt Barnes) as 5th swingman instead of trading Barry for a better long SF.