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    Nah, you're too stupid to figure it out.

    I'm serious about that.

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    By the way, you never answered the question:

    If it's not a civil war, what exactly would it take to call it one?

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    Nah, you're too stupid to figure it out.

    I'm serious about that.

    I have no doubt that you think your own denseness is somehow the limited intellectual capacity of others...it's not true, but I definitely have no doubt that you believe that.

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    By the way, you never answered the question:

    If it's not a civil war, what exactly would it take to call it one?
    How about a religious war? Much of Iraq is at peace. It is the Mullahs that
    are fighting to impose their will on others.

    And as usual, which has always been the case, the government is still
    trying to do the usual crap they always did and not disarm the religious
    militias they have built and try to find a way to pacify the Mullahs, much
    like Saudis and others have done.

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    By the way, you never answered the question:

    If it's not a civil war, what exactly would it take to call it one?

    I don't see what the big deal is if it is civil war...

    You can call it whatever you want.

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    Ok, then. It's not a big deal. I wonder why the administration wants to avoid the term.

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    The administration is too worried about you guys ing....

    You wanted to undermine and make sure the rest of the world knew there was a split...you suceeded...congrats. It's not quite on the level of what the French did but it's pretty good...bonus points because it's your own country.

    The only thing I am pissed at the current administration about is backpedaling trying to get you guys to shut up...they got elected, the mandate was given, and instead they let your whining get to them That angers me.

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    a person on ignore says whatttttttttttttt:

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    The WH is immune to anti-war dissent or to the Cons ution, but it's reflexive that right wing nut-cases like Whott and Clandy and AHF try to blame the Repug ups on war dissenters. The voters run and own the country, not the politicians.

    The WH isn't backpedalling, head said their Iraq policy is "full steam ahead" (or is Whott saying that was head lying, again?)

    They've been at best treading water, and finally were submerged by the 2006 elections and the crushing weight of the WH's own history of lying and incompetence.

    The WH rats are cornered. The vast majority of the US has turned against dubya, head, the war. Even dubya-sucker Blair is saying Iraq is a mess.

    But Whott the blames war dissent exclusively for the WH's problems.

    Stick this up your ass, Whott and friends:

    the French were right in dissenting against the phony war before the Repugs invaded. The Repugs were absolutely wrong in going into Iraq.

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    And as usual, which has always been the case, the government is still
    trying to do the usual crap they always did and not disarm the religious
    militias they have built and try to find a way to pacify the Mullahs, much
    like Saudis and others have done.
    Saddam actually had that well in hand, and he used the EXACT methodology that the Saudis do: extreme repression and violence. Works for the Syrians, too.

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    WTF are you talking about? The Civil War killed over 558,000 of our troops - the Iraq liberation has yet to cost us 3,000.
    The only lives that count are the American lives

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    The only lives that count are the American lives

    If we don't worry about American lives no one else will.


    WE've given enough of our blood for others...but when we needed help everyone told us to go ourselves...

    America needs to worry less about others and more about itself...until the rest of the world gets it.

    Everyone else wants to see us taken down anyway...

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    Damn, can't even admit to the reality.

    Go ahead. Keep booking your flight on the Hindenburg.

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    If we don't worry about American lives no one else will.
    That's not the point of the poster's comment.

    America invaded Iraq (I say wrongfully, you say wrightfully), 500,000 Iraqi lives were wasted (but only 3,000 Americans) and this idiot says it's not enough to call it a civil war.

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    That's not the point of the poster's comment.

    America invaded Iraq (I say wrongfully, you say wrightfully), 500,000 Iraqi lives were wasted (but only 3,000 Americans) and this idiot says it's not enough to call it a civil war.
    Call it what it is: The dimm-o-crap war. The
    terrorist watch the news just like you and they
    know who is now suppose to be controlling our
    government. And those that are, want to "cut
    and run" and declare some kind of victory. So
    they are just ramping up the violence and let
    the media and dimm-o-craps do their thing.

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    The dimm-o-crap war.


    OMG that was hilarious!

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    What is so funny about that. They have taken it
    upon themselves to solve the problem.

    And their solution: Cut and Run. And now they
    reap the wind. The lives lost now are on their
    shoulders. The terrorist will make the lives of
    those in all the ME countries unbearable because
    the dimm-o-craps say: Cut and Run.

    OMG that was hilarious!

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    OMG that was hilarious!
    What is so funny about that?

    The dimm-o-craps has taken it upon themselves
    to solve the ME problem, their solution:
    Cut and Run. The deaths since they have taken
    the reins of command in Washington are on their
    hands. Not Bush!!

    That has been all they have talked about.
    And the Terrorist Listen........

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    again.

    They haven't taken command yet.

    Or said what they plan to do.

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    again.

    They haven't taken command yet.

    Or said what they plan to do.
    I wish I could remember what show I was watching (it was MSNBC) where one of the segway sluglines was "Is the honeymoon over for the Democratic Congress"...this was about a week ago.

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    What is so funny about that?

    The dimm-o-craps has taken it upon themselves
    to solve the ME problem, their solution:
    Cut and Run. The deaths since they have taken
    the reins of command in Washington are on their
    hands. Not Bush!!

    That has been all they have talked about.
    And the Terrorist Listen........
    You are truly clueless . . . or stupid, I'm still pondering which one it is.

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    If we don't worry about American lives no one else will.


    WE've given enough of our blood for others...but when we needed help everyone told us to go ourselves...

    America needs to worry less about others and more about itself...until the rest of the world gets it.

    Everyone else wants to see us taken down anyway...
    that's rich! when has the US gone into a war simply to help others? the US has ALWAYS looked out for itself first. Don't get me wrong, so have every other nation in the world. There is nothing wrong with that, but don't come here trying to pass the US as some altruistic nation of good doers. That is bull and you know it.

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    I figured up the other day, if we added up the killed and wounded in Dimm-o-crap wars in this century, it'd be about one point six million Americans - enough to fill the city of Detroit.

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    It turns out the naive, pie-in-the-sky love-is-all-you-need dimm-o-craps were double-crossed by their islam-o-fascist allies!

    At least somebody has the sense to crack down on terrorists before it's too late.

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Followers of the militant Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took over state-run television Saturday to denounce the Iraqi government, label Sunnis "terrorists" and issue what appeared to many viewers as a call to arms.

    The two-hour broadcast from a community gathering in the heart of the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City included three members of al-Sadr's parliamentary bloc, who took questions from outraged residents demanding revenge for a series of car bombings that killed some 200 people Thursday.

    With Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki relegated to the sidelines, brazen Sunni-Shiite attacks continue unchecked despite a 24-hour curfew over Baghdad. Al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia now controls wide swaths of the capital, his politicians are the backbone of the Cabinet, and his followers deeply entrenched in the Iraqi security forces. Sectarian violence has spun so rapidly out of control since the Sadr City blasts, however, that it's not clear whether even al-Sadr has the authority - or the will - to stop the cycle of bloodshed.

    "This is live and, God willing, everyone will hear me: We are not interested in sidewalks, water services or anything else. We want safety," an unidentified Sadr City resident said as the televised crowd cheered. "We want the officials. They say there is no sectarian war. No, it is sectarian war, and that's the truth."

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    that's rich! when has the US gone into a war simply to help others?
    Korea, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf War, Somalia, Kosovo...and so on and so forth.



    the US has ALWAYS looked out for itself first.
    As it should....they've also been more benevolent in victory and in a position of power than any other empire in World History. Ask the Germans, French and Japanese(well, better to read a book on it than ask the French).


    Don't even get me started on how much aid is given out publicly and privately....as opposed to other countries, who take it, then default, no need to mention any names


    Don't get me wrong, so have every other nation in the world. There is nothing wrong with that, but don't come here trying to pass the US as some altruistic nation of good doers. That is bull and you know it.

    Comparitively to other World Empires historically, the USA is the good Samaritan. We're also a death dealer of the highest order..it's possible to be both.

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