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    Dam, they have a right to complain about both. Why are most of you ers so mad that they make lots of money? Jealous es.
    right to complain? yes.

    legal right to call this an unfair labor practice? complete insult to millions who actually have to deal with actual unfair labor practices everyday.

    let's say your company switches computers on you. they feel the new model is an upgrade and you feel that you were much more comfortable with the older model. try to file a labor grievance and see how far you get...

    (the cuts on the hand might be an issue, but as jarret jack points out, composite balls are used at many different levels and used all over the playgrounds - many people on this board have probably played with a composite ball and not even realized it - and i've never heard this complaint before, so i'm not buying fully into yet).

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    The new ball is absolutely crap and should never have replaced the leather one - that was a purely commercial decision made ny the NBA, but the players are the ones who should decide on the ball they use.

    As for the whining, I think the players should be allowed to react naturally, sometimes with frustration, but shouldn't be able to debate calls.

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    exploiting a society that rewards those that don't give back equally to it
    wtf???

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    the new ball is crap also.

    there was a possession tonight eric williams was dribbling and he had to grab it with two hands because the ball is just dead or just wants to slip easily out of his hands.

    He even mentioned that on the postgame interview.

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    (the cuts on the hand might be an issue, but as jarret jack points out, composite balls are used at many different levels and used all over the playgrounds - many people on this board have probably played with a composite ball and not even realized it - and i've never heard this complaint before, so i'm not buying fully into yet).

    That's kind of what I was thinking. If they've been using this ball in college and other places for years ... why haven't the cuts on the hands been an issue before this?

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    Mark Cuban, Jerry Stackhouse, Ray Allen, Antonio Daniels, Shareef Abdur-Rahim... Did this reporter intentionally hunt down the biggest assholes/whiners in the NBA for this story?
    Yep, Antoine Walker and Jason Terry were unavailable for comment.

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    What I was getting at is, a basketball player does not contribute to society more than, say, a doctor, or a scientist. But he is making about 25x their salary.

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    Dam, they have a right to complain about both. Why are most of you ers so mad that they make lots of money? Jealous es.
    They use a synthetic ball in college. You don't hear college players complaining about the ball.

    I think the two panel design crap is the problem with the ball, and the use of microfiber as opposed to synthetic leather like they use in the production of the college ball.

    Generally speaking, the complaint about the ball would be like someone complaining because their work changed from HP computers to Dell. Pretty weak.

    I'd say they don't even have an argument on the ball but that Vince Carter shot that hit the base of the rim where it meets the backboard and fell in makes me wonder.

    I also saw the ball get stuck in between the rim and backboard three times in the Chicago game last night, and Eric Williams also had that play where the ball just died on him on a dribble.

    That kind of shouldn't be happening like it is.

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    That's kind of what I was thinking. If they've been using this ball in college and other places for years ... why haven't the cuts on the hands been an issue before this?
    They haven't been using this same kind of ball anywhere for years. The balls in college are synthetic but they aren't the same exact material.

    If players like Nash, Redd, Kidd, etc say they are getting cut, they definitely need to take a look at it.

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    Bizarre! How would a ball cut you?

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    Bizarre! How would a ball cut you?
    Apparantly the synthetic fibers tear off the ball and are sharp...

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    Wasn't the new ball reportedly sent to every team during last year's all-star break? I don't know if the decision to use the ball had been finalized at that point, but if that was a feedback period to make complaints, and none of the teams really did, then criticisms after the decision is final don't hold as much water.

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    If it's cutting players, then it is a health hazard, and there is legal exposure. That will cost a LOT more than leather balls.

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    They haven't been using this same kind of ball anywhere for years. The balls in college are synthetic but they aren't the same exact material.

    Then I guess that answers that.

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    Carmelo seems to be liking the ball. He's scoring 30 point games everywhere

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    It is mind boggling that this is even being discussed...Shaquille O’Neal himself said that he DOES NOT LIKE THE NEW BALL...END OF STORY.... They were supposed to have changed back to the leather ball before the season started....

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    Shaquille O’Neal himself said that he DOES NOT LIKE THE NEW BALL...END OF STORY..
    Shaq hates free throws too, are you saying they should outlaw them? Dumbass argument.

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    look at Finley's shot just now that hit the back of the rim and just died and then fell through the net.

    The new ball is a joke.

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