Mich>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida
Michigan is the second best team in the country. I have even less respect for Urban Meyer now. The BCS is not supposed to decide whether a rematch is warranted or not. The system is supposed to decide who the two best teams are. I hope Ohio State runs it up on Florida. I think they will win by at least 30 points.. another lame national championship game..
Schedule/Results
Week Date Opponent Result Coverage
2 Sat., Sep 2 Southern Miss W 34-7
3 Sat., Sep 9 UCF W 42-0
4 Sat., Sep 16 @Tennessee W 21-20
5 Sat., Sep 23 Kentucky W 26-7
6 Sat., Sep 30 Alabama W 28-13
7 Sat., Oct 7 LSU W 23-10
8 Sat., Oct 14 @Auburn L 27-17
10 Sat., Oct 28 Georgia W 21-14
11 Sat., Nov 4 @Vanderbilt W 25-19
12 Sat., Nov 11 South Carolina W 17-16
13 Sat., Nov 18 Western Carolina W 62-0
14 Sat., Nov 25 @Florida State W 21-14
15 Sat., Dec 2 Arkansas W 38-28
All these teams were ranked in top 25.
Florida played a much tougher schedule.
Still doesn't make then the 2nd best team in the country. Unfortunately when Florida gets waxed it will be to late for you to come back and admit that Michigan was the 2nd best team .. With the exception of Ten. all of their 'tough' games were at home or on a neutral sight.. If I were to pull up Michigan's schedule I imagine I could find a few teams that were ranked at one time as well..
when USC beats Michigan, you'll see the error of your thinking.
Penn St. and Iowa were ranked pretty high to start the year, and Central Michigan won the MAC and is playing in a bowl. I am a huge Michigan fan, I believe they got jobbed, I am not going to try and whine, and I can't give a great reason to exclude Florida, but how, in the writer's minds can Michigan, who was ranked #2 after they lost to Ohio St. drop in the polls when they didn't play after that. I know Florida had a chance to impress, but does a seven point win over Florida St. (this year's team) and a come from behind, blown lead ten point win over Arkansas credence enough to vault Florida over Michigan? I think the writers voted out of not wanting to see a rematch than who they think is the second best team in the country. I am not saying Michigan is categorically better and is by far the second best team in the country, but I do think they are the second best team. I guess I really can't be all that upset, b/c the difference between the Gators and the Wolverines isn't all that great, and it just happened to be that Florida gets the chance this time. If you go back in time, there a a bunch of teams that should have the chance to play for the le and didn't. Aubrun in '03, Miami in '00, Nebraska and Michigan in '97, Penn St. in '94 and Notre Dame in '93.
Michigan should be in the BCS le game. The SEC is overrated. If Arkansas can play for the conference le you know something's wrong with your league.
...thats more than slightly unfair.
Hahahaha.
Listen, I'm not going to go on here and bash Florida and say they suck and the SEC sucks, but I just want a better system. If Florida is the second best team, then lets have a system that proves it, not hypothisizes it by subjective voting. If I were King of the World, Michigan and Florida would be playing each other on the 16th in San Diego, or Glendale, or San Antonio and the #2 team in the country would de determined. The boners who voted Florida #1 and #5 in the Harris poll should be forced to give up their votes and have rotten eggs thrown at them during halftimne of the Sugar Bowl for their stupidity. If it had been Michigan who got to ahead of Florida, then the Florida fans would have every right to be pissed. There needs to be a better sytem, something where year in and year out, leig mate teams don't feel like they got screwed over.
Mich played 1 great team and 2 pretty good teams. They lost to the one great team and beat the 2 pretty good teams.
Fla played 4 pretty good teams and beat 3 of them.
I agree on the let Mich and Fla play to see who goes. It seems every year there is one team that feels screwed. The only problem is... if you make it a 1-game playoff to be #2 then the #4 team will . If you make it Final Four, then the #5 team will . It never ends. Every year 65 teams get into the NCAA Tourney and there are still people pissed they didn't get in. Even if we did have a playoff and 8 or 12 or 16 teams got in, the number 9 and 13 and 17 team would pitch a fit.
If I would have voted, I would have used 1 factor. You may not like it, but I think it is entirely relevant - a team does not deserve a shot at the BCS le when they do not even win their own conf. I have a feeling that is why many coaches changed Fla to #2.
...this is a good post.
1. i am in favor of an 8 team playoff
2. but, yes, everyone will no matter what...but that just cannot be a concern
3. for what its worth, i think they got it right, though. michigan does not deserve a second chance more than florida deserves ONE
All very good points by all of you.
I'm not only a Michigan fan but an alum as well. And, I'm not ing or moaning about Florida going to the NC game. Do I believe Michigan deserves to be there? Yeah. Do I think Michigan is the second best team in the country? Yes. But, under this system, we got to accept the fact that there will be questionable and controversial decisions on which teams get to play for the championship.
It's the system that is flawed. It's not Florida's fault. I don't blame them. I don't even really blame the coaches or the voters. Disagree with them? Yes. Blame them? No. Because that's the system. The system needs to be changed.
It does nothing to about it now. What needs to be done is changes to the system.
And, while there will always be teams that will feel like they got screwed, whether it's the #5 team in a 4 team playoff or the #17 team in a 16 team playoff, I think it's better that an arguable #4 or #16 team get screwed than the #2 team that gets screwed. Yes, even in the NCAA tournament for men's basketball, the #66 team is upset. But, who has a right to be more upset? The #66 team in the country who feels they are at least #65 or the #3 team in the country who was told that if a certain team would lose, they would be the clear #2?
No system will likely ever be perfect. But, at some point, you have to move up from 30% perfect to 65% perfect to 80% until you get a system that optimizes and maximizes the possibilities of having as fair and perfect a system as possible.
Florida deserves to be in the NC le game. This isn't about Michigan being clearly better than Florida. It's about it being arguable. It's about it being unfair because it's not clear that Florida is better than Michigan.
Change the system.
The coach's polls are dorked anyway. darth visor voted uo 4th over Wisc and USC and LSU and Lville.
That's your opinion, and that's fine. One could argue that Florida did have it's chance and lost it when they lost to Auburn. It's the same argument had USC would have won and people would have argued that USC had its chance but lost it when they lost to Oregon State.
It's a difference of opinion.
except that neither auburn nor oregon state is the opponent in the national le. and that makes all the difference in the world...you lost to a team that is ranked higher than you and beat you already. florida is in a much different situation.
besides, this way you get to see just how good your team is compared to SC. your going to lose...making your small point moot.
Yes, any type of playoff will have the team that is just barely on the outside and moan, but I don't remeber anyone challenging the vailidity of Florida's basketball championship last year b/c some 4th or 5th place team from the major conferences didn't in. People still question Auburn from '03 and Penn St. from '94 b/c they did everything they could to win the National le, but didn't get the chance to play it out on the field. The 9th, or 13th, or 17th teams can't unequivocally say that. They didn't do everything they could've done to get in. That is the difference, plain and simple. Undefeated teams, no matter how may there are should have a chance. I would even put Boise St. in that arguement, even though they play in a weaker conference.
Wow, might as well not play the game. I guess this is part of the reason that UT fans still pile on the Used Rubbers, even after they beat them last year.
oh no, play the game. its just my opinion....but i am confident SC will win.
Much like this prediction.
go back and sift through all my thoughts on the game...i think you'll find as the week progressed i did not even think SC would cover.
Right. Auburn and Oregon State are nowhere near the caliber of Ohio State. That's my point. Different approaches. Fine, think the way you want. I don't begrudge you. I'm just saying there is a different opinion out there.
Florida is absolutely in a different situation, and I don't think they don't deserve to go to the NC game. I'm just saying it's arguable that they should go ahead of Michigan. I don't blame Florida. I don't claim Michigan is CLEARLY better than Florida or more deserving.
But, there is a different opinion out there.
As for SC beating Michigan making my point moot ... well, an average UCLA team made you nothing, so your opinion means nothing to me. You said USC would rout UCLA.
Michigan will make JD Booty cry before that games over ... literally. Tears will run down his face.
why play the game? or why will SC win?
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