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Spurs had quite a bit to do with it.the Rockets game had as much to do with a Houston choke as the Spurs comeback
I whole heartedly disagree with your statement there.
You really are the master of the noncontributory statement.
Spurs had quite a bit to do with it.the Rockets game had as much to do with a Houston choke as the Spurs comeback
I whole heartedly disagree with your statement there.
That's because Damien Wilkins is a better player than Ray Allen.
Damn Spurm, you dropped a hot one there
And did I say the Spurs didn't have something do with it? No.
But any knowledgable fan who watched that game knows the Spurs got their asses kicked for 2 and a half quarters, and that it was no fluke.
Spurs trash a few patsies and suddenly everyone's happy. That's just as bad as the bridge-jumpers after a loss.
Let's get some perspective. I want to see what they look like when they play the Hornets and the Rockets.
Where is everyone happy? I'm questioning whether the improved offense is even a good thing.
Wait before anyone else posts in this thread, let's see what the Spurs do against the Hornets. Playing a lottery team will tell us exactly where this team stands.
Highly efficient offense is ALWAYS welcome. I feel the team has underachieved in that regard, and they might revert back to it it again -- especially if Manu can't stay healthy.
But the way for this team to win the le is to be excellent on both ends. If Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili are healthy and clicking on offense I think that would be ideal. Their team defense is always going to be good, and I don't see how maximizing their offense is going to somehow hurt them on defense. Each end can help the other. You play well offensively, it becomes a little easier to have energy on D, and vice versa.
All the old Bulls teams were great on BOTH ends. The Lakers actually were pretty good on both ends as well. Same with most championship teams. You need to be close to elite on BOTH ends. The Spurs were pretty good offensively the last two seasons, but they were never elite. Maybe in 2004-05 they could have been elite if everyone was healthy -- but we will never know.
For some reason that made me laugh outloud.
The Elson avatar makes it even funnier.
Hornets Defensive PPA: 93.5 (6th in NBA)
Hornets Opp FGP: 0.442 (6th in NBA)
Out of the upcoming stretch over the next couple of weeks, they, Houston, and Minnesota are the only ones that play any defense worth mentioning.
Let me know how else I can help you.
Second lowest points allowed, and the highest differential, not a bad combination..
Well the Hornets are the fourth WORST team in the league on offense. So they aren't exactly a very good team overall. They are about average right now.
http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2007/o_oe.htm
The Spurs have only held 5 opponents under .425 from the field this season. Houston, Seattle, Utah, GS, and Charlotte. Many of the games this season, teams have hit in the high 40s percentage-wise. The Spurs interior is weaker thus-far.
When the rodeo comes to town will be the best indicator of how well the Spurs are playing defensively. That is the time this team usually gels in preparing for the playoffs. The good news is that the Spurs point differential has been fantastic...about as good as it was in 2005 for much of that season.
Hornets Record: 9-9
Playoff Seed: N/A
The T'Wolves are the better defensive team ... if you want the Spurs to matchup with a lottery team to see where they stand.
And the Spurs swept the Rockets last year and the Rockets were the best defensive team in the league. So much for lotto teams being a good litmus test.
But anyways, I fail to see how asking whether the Spurs' offense clicking in the regular season is a good thing got shifted to how the Spurs need to play the Hornets.
I agree. Scoring over 100 is great--but the impressive thing is the point differential in these games.
When you are beating teams by 30-40 points you aren't just outscoring them in a close high-scoring game, you're beating the out of them at both ends of the court.
Charlotte is 4th in the NBA in Opp FG%.
That was a good point. I want this team to be a great defensive team. Offensively, I don't really care. For some reason, this team will never be a consistently great offensive unit.
I want to see the Spurs be in the top three in FG% defense. However, as Solid D noted, that is going to be tough. The Spurs, who usually lead the league in blocks, are in the middle of the pack. The interior defense is not nearly as good as it was during the 1999 and 2003 championships and Duncan isn't playing defense as well as he did during the 2005 run.
This team still has a loooooong ways to go defensively and I think the fluke offensive output could hurt this team in the long haul because they won't be used to winning games with their defense.
Bottomline is the Spurs might not be battle tested going into the playoffs if they never have to dig deep and get stops during the regular season.
Um, because it still hasn't been definitively established that the Spurs offense is "clicking". It may be that they are just fattening up on the weak sisters.
My point was that I'd rather see how they do against decent defensive teams before annointing the dawn of a new age.
Finally, just looking at PPG is completely meaningless if you don't adjust for the fact that the league as a whole is scoring more. The Spurs are 10th in scoring and 6th in FGP. On a relative basis, that's better than last year, but they could still end up in the lower half of the league in PPG.
I guess you are missing that this thread isn't annointing them. It's questioning them.
These are the only teams that we have to talk about .. they are the teams they have played. If we go by your theory, I guess I should just shut down the forum until the Spurs play someone decent defensively because you don't think we should talk about any of it.
And they're also 15th in PPG allowed at 98.3
And still the Spurs scored less than 98 points against them both times they played them.
Im shocked the Hornets are even in this discussion.
Yeah, because that's obviously what I said.I guess you are missing that this thread isn't annointing them. It's questioning them.
These are the only teams that we have to talk about .. they are the teams they have played. If we go by your theory, I guess I should just shut down the forum until the Spurs play someone decent defensively because you don't think we should talk about any of it.
ovbviouslyYeah, because that's ovbviously what I said.
Yeah, because that's obviously what I said.
I just didn't get the point of this post by you early in the thread when no one before you in the thread was even acting like the Spurs were all that. They were just discussing whether the Spurs were getting away from being a half-court, defensive oriented team and if they were, if that was a good thing or a bad thing.
Spurs trash a few patsies and suddenly everyone's happy. That's just as bad as the bridge-jumpers after a loss.
Let's get some perspective. I want to see what they look like when they play the Hornets and the Rockets.
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