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Anyone notice that Finley's more effective when starting and Manu's better off the bench? Tsktsktsk Pop's a genius for figuring this out.
Jeez, Duncan with 16 and 10............come on now.........
Anyone notice that Finley's more effective when starting and Manu's better off the bench? Tsktsktsk Pop's a genius for figuring this out.
Yeah like in the 1st and 2nd qtr when both Barry and Elson got most of their insignifigant? minutes. Blowout.
I didn't say insignificant. You just always act like Elson getting 20 minutes+ a game in wins is because of his play, when moreso it's because he's a bench player. So when the starters sit the entire 4th quarter, he obviously gets a lot of minutes. (This game was a blowout in the 2nd quarter)
You implied Barry Elson minutes were insignifigant and you know it.
24-18 with 2:20 left in the 1st qtr.Kori Ellis wrote: Yeah that's what happens in blowouts. Bench players get a lot of minutes.
It was a "blowout" in the 2nd qtr in part thanks to BarrDogs 3 for 3 treys.
Also Barrdog and Elson had 14 of thier 24 minutes in the 1st half.
Enough to add to the blowout for sure.
Elsons 20+ minute games and 8-0 record are NOT games in which he simply comes in garbage minutes of a 2nd half of a blowout. Noooo.
TallBall D and openflow O works, period.
2005 Spurs Champs. Barry and Nazr 20+ min per game.
2007 Spurs Champs? Barry and Elson.
Book it Dano.
"Only Pop can Stop."
Their big minutes in the second half were insignificant. But they were a big part of pushing the lead in the first half. I didn't say nor imply otherwise.
Has he ever played 12+ minutes in a first half of a close game? It has already been established that up until the last 2 games (I believe) that his +/- was horrible. So whatever you think that he was doing for the team, it wasn't translating into net points because he was such a defensive liability.Elsons 20+ minute games and 8-0 record are NOT games in which he simply comes in garbage minutes of a 2nd half of a blowout. Noooo.
TallBall D and openflow O works, period.
If we are now talking about close games won, who cares if he was in at the start, middle or end or combination thereof? In fact i would say being in at the end of a close game is a good thing, which Elson has been. Such as:
W 97-91 vs Dallas Mavs 26 mins.
W 92-84 vs Hou 27 minutes including :
""Robert and Francisco and Beno, off the bench, were the reasons we ended up with this victory," LordPopovich said.
Gregg Popovich benched Tony Parker along with Duncan and the rest of the starters after Houston built a 74-55 lead in the third quarter.
With the two All-Stars out, the Spurs mounted a 20-1 spurt, holding Houston without a field goal for eight minutes. -end quote.
I asked timvp for the site that has these +/- stats on Elson.
I can understand Findog but BARRDOG?
He told you, 82games.com
Like I've said all season, if Elson can eventually learn to rotate on defense, he'll play a solid role for the Spurs. But if his teammates don't trust him and get out of position to help him out, then that's when the Spurs start sucking when he's on the floor. The last couple games have been different. We have to wait and see whether he can continue to learn. His teammates/coaches will grow tired of constantly having to explain and re-explain to him what to do and where to be offensively/defensively, like they did with Nazr. Hopefully Elson is smarter than Nazr and catches on.
Last edited by Kori Ellis; 12-09-2006 at 10:44 PM.
It's a take off on the Findawg Nuttriders Club.
Q. Did Nazrs blowing assignments include the 2005 Playoffs?
I would think yes, as it was his 1st year as a Spur.
If so, why do we care if he blew some assignments, we led. The good of '05Nazr far outweighed the bad.
Likewise in 2007, would we rather
a. win the le with a floor runnin paint patrolin Elson
b. 100% cutesy assignment conformism with SmallBall and get run in the 2nd round again?
c. Elson getting assignments correct and Spurs le.
I will choose c then a.
Now, as to that 2005 26 min a game Champion Barry......
I want to say Schintzus, but then I am channeling David Greenwood.
I'm feeling the '05 postseason.
Has Tony Parker ever been so productive for an entire half without scoring than he was in the first half Friday?
Windmill. Maybe.Can we start calling Elson the "Flying Dutchman" now?
See '03. Finals.Did Manu Ginobili really dribble right handed toward the right baseline, and throw a pass with his right hand back over his left shoulder to the right corner? Is he made of rubber?
Not surprising. You are staring Bruce and Obertsos after all.
Did the Spurs' bench really outscore the Spurs' starters in the 1st half, 39-16?
Sequ would trade Tim Duncan circa 1999 if he grew an inch taller, knowwhatimean?
Does Sequ still want to trade Manu Ginobili for 2 second round picks and a Columbia 300 Bowling bag?
That is all.
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