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    We don't need anything of value. Any player that can play a little D and doesn't require 20+min/game will do. As it stands now, even if we just cut him the Spurs would be better. But we shouldn't trade or cut him. Just halve his minutes until production starts going up.

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    the same situation applied to Barry and the Spurs tried to ship him.
    It's not exactly the same case, Barry hasn't signed at a bargain price like Finley and Barry had a ring.

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    December 10 isn't the time for trade talk unless you're the Sixers.

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    I say the Spurs should be all over the AI trade. Not that they should get AI. But if the Sixers are making a trade and need a third team to get involved the Spurs should jump in the mix and somehow get rid of Finley in process.

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    But those perimeter shots that he passed up didn't bother me as much as the times he'd drive the lane and be one dribble from a layup and then just stop and pass to the perimeter.
    Thats a better description. Your right, its not so much the perimeter stuff, but those close shots where he could easily get fouled and go to the line where he is shooting 90% or whatever it is.

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    i say we trade him to the pacers for stephen jackson, at least jackson makes love to pressure on the court and off the court

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    It's not exactly the same case, Barry hasn't signed at a bargain price like Finley and Barry had a ring.
    Barry had a ring? Were you counting his wedding ring?

    Portland was offering Barry $5M more. I don't think anyone is going to feel sorry for Finely seeing as he's making like $20M this year or whatever. Trade or no trade.

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    Finley + Bonner for SJax


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    Barry had a ring? Were you counting his wedding ring?
    Yes, Barry had a ring when Spurs tried to trade him for JR Smith.

    Portland was offering Barry $5M more.
    So, you compare a player who signed for $20M with Spurs instead of $25M with Portland with a player who chose Spurs at $2.5M over Miami at $5M ?
    Finley isn't in the same case than Barry.

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    who chose Spurs at $2.5M over Miami at $5M ?
    Spurs 3 years/$8M and Miami 2 years/$10M isn't as much difference as 20-25M.

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    BTW, the main problem with Finley is that Pop continue to play him a lot despite his huge shooting slump.
    I understand why Pop doesn't bench a player because of that but the truth is Sprus lose some games because of that.

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    Spurs 3 years/$8M and Miami 2 years/$10M isn't as much difference as 20-25M.
    plus Finley is gettin $50 M or something off of Cuban anyway, so it's not like he's taking a 90% paycut, while I do admire him for picking SA

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    plus Finley is gettin $50 M or something off of Cuban anyway, so it's not like he's taking a 90% paycut, while I do admire him for picking SA
    Yeah that's my point. He didn't pass on a whole of a lot of money from Miami anyway. From what I remember, Miami's offer had a team option on the third year, while the Spurs offer had a player option on the third year.

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    BTW, the main problem with Finley is that Pop continue to play him a lot despite his huge shooting slump.
    I understand why Pop doesn't bench a player because of that but the truth is Sprus lose some games because of that.
    I agree. Finley can't keep being allowed to try to shoot himself out of the slump during games (unless it's garbage time).

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    I think Pop is being too cozy with Finley, and it reminds me of the Hedo days

    I think Pop should force Finley to earn his minutes like he does with virtually everyone else (not named Horry)

    Pop needs to stop playing favorites

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    Yes, Barry had a ring when Spurs tried to trade him for JR Smith.
    So if the Spurs would have won a championship last year, it'd be cool to trade Finley? But because they didn't, they have to keep him?




    So, you compare a player who signed for $20M with Spurs instead of $25M with Portland with a player who chose Spurs at $2.5M over Miami at $5M ?
    Finley isn't in the same case than Barry.
    Yeah, so players are going to stop coming to the Spurs because Finely had $38M coming his away instead of $40M?

    Terry Porter signed for less and the Spurs shipped him off before he won a ring. Derek Anderson signed for less and the Spurs wouldn't even give him a serious contract offer the next year. Heck, Nick Van Exel signed for less last year and if any team would have offered anything to make the Spurs better, you better believe that the Spurs would have had him on the first bus out of town.

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    Spurs 3 years/$8M and Miami 2 years/$10M isn't as much difference as 20-25M.
    Miami and Spurs were 2 contenders.
    Portland wasn't a contender.

    The difference between Finley and Barry is that Barry signed for less money to have a chance to get a ring (like Rasho) while Finley chose Spurs over all the other contenders for less money.
    The only way Spurs can trade Finley without hurting their image is if Finley agrees to be traded.

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    Miami and Spurs were 2 contenders.
    Portland wasn't a contender.

    The difference between Finley and Barry is that Barry signed for less money to have a chance to get a ring (like Rasho) while Finley chose Spurs over all the other contenders for less money.
    The only way Spurs can trade Finley without hurting their image is if Finley agrees to be traded.
    The Spurs almost traded David Robinson at one point. I don't think shipping off Finley would damage them at all. It's a business.

    while Finley chose Spurs over all the other contenders for less money.
    Because he thought they were his best chance at a ring. So he's the same.

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    Miami and Spurs were 2 contenders.
    Portland wasn't a contender.

    The difference between Finley and Barry is that Barry signed for less money to have a chance to get a ring (like Rasho) while Finley chose Spurs over all the other contenders for less money.
    The only way Spurs can trade Finley without hurting their image is if Finley agrees to be traded.
    wrong

    he already had his chance at a ring last year, and this is the NBA, it's a business not a charity

    Finley is still making TONS of money of fof Cuban

    Finley chose the Spurs because he felt it was his best shot at a ring

    Barry did the same thing, and he almost got shipped and if anything he's become a better player for the Spurs because of it

    It's a business and just b/c Finley chose SA over Miami, doesn't mean the Spurs have no right to trade him

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    This all being said. I don't think they are actively pursuing a Finley trade right now.

    But if a trade comes their way that makes sense now, or if Finley keeps getting worse as the deadline approaches, I don't think they will think twice about trading him just because of worrying about a reputation issue.

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    It's the end of the road for this guy on the Spurs.
    We don't need to trade or get rid of Michael Finley. He's eventually gonna get his form back and start dropping in those shots.

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    The Spurs are in this for championships. Not being nice to players. If cutting Bruce Bowen tomorrow made the Spurs better, I'd be all for it.

    And if the Spurs could survive their low balling of Derek Anderson after promising him a big contract after his one year contract he originally signed, they could survive if they traded a guy playing horribly who is making more money this year than Tim Duncan.

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    what i dont get about finley is that his a good ft shooter, why doesnt he go into the lane and draw more fouls instead of settling for jumpers......i dont give a if your old and scared to break a bone, but you are doin jack on jumpers...

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    He's another Steve Smith -- he's washed up but it'll be nice to see him get a ring.

    Somewhere in the playoffs he'll hit a big shot and a national announcer who doesn't know any better will say, "That's why they got Michael Finley."

    He'll be like a mascot. Emcee Brent Barry will needle him on stage at the Alamodome after the river parade. Then they'll send him on his way.

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    He's another Steve Smith -- he's washed up but it'll be nice to see him get a ring.

    Somewhere in the playoffs he'll hit a big shot and a national announcer who doesn't know any better will say, "That's why they got Michael Finley."

    He'll be like a mascot. Emcee Brent Barry will needle him on stage at the Alamodome after the river parade. Then they'll send him on his way.
    He has a player option for next season to ruin your plan.

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