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Manu has also been excellent in December.
17/4/4/2 on 50% FG, 52% 3FG and 94% FT.
Well he only has two games this season with 10+ assists, I believe. But I do know they lost a game when he had 9 (Lakers).
Manu has also been excellent in December.
17/4/4/2 on 50% FG, 52% 3FG and 94% FT.
Conclusion: If Many, Tony, and Tim are all playing well, the Spurs will win more than they lose.
Yeah, I was talking more about career than this year in particular.
Although averaging 7.8 assists without many games over 10 is pretty, could we say, consistent.
Yeah I realize. I know that the Spurs record when he scores 20+ is excellent over his career (I don't know exactly what it is). But his 10+ assist games is such a small sample size, I'm guessing (didn't look it up) the Spurs are undefeated.
Screwthe passing he needs to shoot more threes. .529, 4th in the league ahead of Barry.
j/k (I think)
Yeah, that's why I said 25 instead of 20, so the sample sizes for scoring would be cut down a little.
I suspect he has lost some games with 10+ assists, though.
Maybe in my copious free time I'll try to look it up.
Has anyone seen the movie Lost In Translation?
So far in this thread I've learned that Tony is either (a) distributing the ball better and/or (b) the Spurs are hitting a higher percentage of shots...or course the cause and effect relationship of that correlation could be argued either way.
Oh, and I also learned that Chumpdumper is not a genius. I always figured he was, so that's news to me.
Wha-wha-whaaat?
ChumpDumper doesn't have a penis?
I remember in Dec 03, I think, Spurs ran off a 13 game W streak (stared in LA with Malik gettting hurt), with Tony very obviously passing and getting a bunch more ASTs than in that Nov or later that season.
I think the Spurs are much better when Tony balances better distributing and shooting. It's very simple, when a player gets his hands on the ball, he feels involved and motivated, feels trusted/respected enough to take shots.
Yeah, Tony can score, but there are plenty of scorers in the NBA who are on losing teams. There are way too many possessions now where Tony dribbles around, drives or shoots, and is the only player to touch the ball.
I wouldn't like to run down the court so many times/game to watch Tony shoot, even if he made it. Sorta like Lamar and Kobe, Lamar said he's not there to watch Kobe shoot.
The best basketball is, duh,
plenty of ball movement,
lots of crisp passing,
moving without the ball (you're not motivated to move without the ball if the ball doesn't come to you),
everybody touching the ball,
getting a chance to shoot.
Since the Spurs are their own worst enemy (along with injuries), anything Tony can do get everybody motivated on offense makes the motivation for defense so much easier.
Tony's PPG isn't the only game objective for the Spurs.
Tonys distributing is the meta-game of motivating/involving everybody on both ends.
When, eg, Lakers shutdown the paint and Tony's drives, he can always keep distributing. He's shown many times over the last 3 years that he can do it very well. There's no need to wait for him to mature into a distributor. It's up to Pop to get him to do it.
Last edited by boutons_; 12-18-2006 at 01:35 PM.
Tony is averaging a whopping ONE less shot per 48 minutes in December (21) compared to November (22).
So I think we have our answer.
I think it happened when he was travelling to Venus.
At least he wasn't going to . . . nah, not in the holiday spirit.
here We Go Again W/ This Pass 1st Pg B.s. He Is A Scoring Pg... Get Over It. W/ Out It This Team Would Have Sucked Last Year. If His Coach Isn't Complaining Then You Shouldn't... Try To Enjoy The ing Game And Be Thankful We Have An All-star Pg To Go W/ An All-star Pf. When You Have A Dominant Post Player, You Don't Need Nash Or Kidd On Your Team. I Don't Recall Kenny Smith Or Derek Fischer Avg. 10 Apg W/ Shaq And The Dream! Get Off Tony's Sac Dammit!
Very good post.
They're not talking about dismissing Parker's number one strength (which is to score with his speed. ) Just that he's rounding out his game and his weaknesses.
It's more on point that he should add a little dimension to his game, not be a PASS FIRST, but include making that extra pass in his decision making. Even Barry commented a couple weeks ago after that Clippers game that it'll be better for himself and the team and that he's heading in the right direction by being a good passer as well! Not to be Steve Nash type point guard or anything, (because the team doesn't need that) but juggle decisions like he did in his 15th assist game?
You think he would have helped if he had fell in line and not had read the Clippers defense by clogging the lane? And kept wasting possessions by insisting on scoring himself?
Some of you guys are so damn loyal to a static approach. Pop obviously adjusted last year's Tony take 25 shots when Tim and Manu healed up and got their confidence back.
Sheesh.
Nice post.
I'm not loyal to any approach... I'm just sick of posts like the one where he got engaged to Eva and people cracked jokes about him giving up the rock! I can't think of another PG outside of maybe Chris Paul that would fit this club better. He's the 2nd most important player on this team. So AGAIN to his luv/hate fans I say get off his freakin' sac!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, come on. I was one of the ones who made the Parker jokes about the ring and I'm not a basher by any means. Tony's not perfect, and one of his flaws is he'll get tunnel vision at times. I know that he's being coaching to play a certain way, but he still overdoes it at times.
If he had 8 ast. in the last two games that doesn't mean that he is a passing PG.
For me he still shots too much.
^Now that's a basher.
Tony Parker was sitting on the bench, the Spurs game about to start. He takes out his cell phone and calls Eva to ask if she is going to make it to the game. Eva responds " Don't worry, Tony. I'll be there before the next teardrop falls." (Freddy Fender music in the background)
What I'd like to know is what PG would posters prefer over Tony????
they would prefer nash but then nash shots aton of shots
watch the suns sometimes
but tp plays better d then nash
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