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    How's that?
    They dropped the dead weight of Iversons contract.
    I'd take Iverson at $17M over Miller at $9M any day of the week.

    Got a point gaurd who can distribute which is what they need
    They don't need a distributing point guard. They don't have any scorers. Or post players. Or anything, really. Who is a distributing point guard going to pass it to?

    Denver's the one that got owned.
    Billy King is that you?

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    Not enough balls for AI and Melo to share. I don't expect Denver to be a le contender.

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    So does Iverson play for the East in the all-star game?
    Uh, he's in the West now, so no.

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    Yeah, I don't think that anyone can look at the Miller part of the deal and think that it has anything to do with Philly trying to win right now. Miller was a fairly talented malcontent in Cleveland and in LA, and who knows what he'll do in Philadelphia. His contract had to be included in the deal for it to work -- the fact that Denver was willing to jettison him at this point speaks volumes about what they think of him -- and I suspect he'll either be moved again as soon as possible or that he'll just bide his time with a team that isn't going anywhere. His contract isn't favorable for much of anything other than facilitating a trade like this one.

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    This is going to be interesting. Iverson has never played on a team with another superstar. Nuggets have a good team, let's see what Iverson can do with them.

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    Welcome to ballhog USA

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    Philly definitely clears some space by ridding of...

    Iverson - $18.2 million (06-07), $20.1 (07-08), $21.9 (08-09)

    Taking on

    Miller - $8.6 (06-07)

    Smith - $6.8 (06-07)
    Is Miller's contract expiring this year, too? If so, that makes a little more sense.

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    I think you gotta see who Philly drafts before you say they got hosed, but right now theres no way they got nearly what you excpected them to get out of this deal.

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    Is Miller's contract expiring this year, too? If so, that makes a little more sense.
    Nope.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...s/nuggets.html

    $8,733,333 - 2006
    $9,366,666 - 2007
    $9,999,999 - 2008

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    I wonder how happy a camper JR Smith will be when everyone gets back from "vacation".

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    AI being in the West ing sucks though. He always kills the Spurs.

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    I think you gotta see who Philly drafts before you say they got hosed, but right now theres no way they got nearly what you excpected them to get out of this deal.
    I think where Philly got a bad deal is in why couldn't a MIN or GSW deal be worked out (if the right pieces were on the table, those were much better trades).

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    My question too. If its less than 2 more years I don't think this is a bad move. Miller will mildly help Webber.
    Only if he's going to use Miller as a walker.

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    It's a great trade for the Nuggets and does elevate them to contender status, just wait and see. But it's a short window of opportunity and it's also a shaky one due to Camby's fragility and AI's rapidly closing prime. Plus the inevitable AI Karl fallout...then again, GP loved George Karl, maybe AI will too.

    Still, it isn't hard to see how excellently these pieces are going to fit together under Karl.

    The Nuggets are exactly the type of team that can channel AI's talent into wins...and that's without Carmelo Anthony being taken into account.

    just having Camby on the same team with AI makes a potential le contender.

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    I wonder how happy a camper JR Smith will be when everyone gets back from "vacation".
    Enough to finagle a E-Will/Bonner for JR Smith deal, hopefully.

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    Yeah, I don't think that anyone can look at the Miller part of the deal and think that it has anything to do with Philly trying to win right now. Miller was a fairly talented malcontent in Cleveland and in LA, and who knows what he'll do in Philadelphia. His contract had to be included in the deal for it to work -- the fact that Denver was willing to jettison him at this point speaks volumes about what they think of him -- and I suspect he'll either be moved again as soon as possible or that he'll just bide his time with a team that isn't going anywhere. His contract isn't favorable for much of anything other than facilitating a trade like this one.
    If Philly can turn around and trade Miller for some more picks and maybe a young project, then this trade will start making more sense. Right now they traded AI for a bad contract and two picks in the 20's.

    Miller is already 30. He's gone from a bad defender into a horrible defender within the last two years.

    If Philly wanted to win the Greg Oden sweepstakes, they should have traded him to a team that would only give them a dead expiring contract back and a couple first round picks. Miller is just good enough to lead them to a couple victories but not good enough to really make a playoff push.

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    I wonder if AI will have any of the old Larry Brown sentiment playing for Karl.

    One things for certain, this will be the most talent he's ever played with. So that excuse will be gone.

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    Uh, he's in the West now, so no.
    SO if he's voted in as a starter for the East? They just skip him?

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    Hot damn, the Spurs take three days off and the world goes to !

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    This draft is deep and he can parlay two 20s into a low lottery and get a uva player.
    There's no way you can trade two 20's for a low lottery pick in this draft. This draft is deep, but the talent drops off around pick 18 or so. You might be able to trade two 20's for like pick 15 or 16, but even that I wouldn't count on.

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    The question should be if will those votes be transfered over to the west or will he have to be selected by the coaches.

    Tony's shot at another ASG just dropped.

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    Billy King just cemented himself as the worst GM in sports with this move. You're telling me he couldn't get something better than Andre Miller? Miller came to camp out of shape and even when he was in shape, he was an overrated and overpaid player.
    larry brown was giving king advise NICE MOVE LARRY

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    Wow. Denver's hurry-up offense just upgraded their slowest piece for one of the quickest players in NBA history.

    No one's going to be able to keep up with them. This will be fun to watch.

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    Wow. Denver's hurry-up offense just upgraded their slowest piece for one of the quickest players in NBA history.

    No one's going to be able to keep up with them. This will be fun to watch.
    Yeah, they are going to be scary. 110 points per game before AI and with a slow point guard leading the way?

    And now they'll be able to press fullcourt like the old Sonics used to do so well. Karl has a short life span as a coach but if the pieces fall together right, they are going to be a power.

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    Is Miller's contract expiring this year, too? If so, that makes a little more sense.
    I think ESPN said that it was.

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