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Trade Beno+Scola+2nd rounder for a 76ers first rounder from the nuggets. Vaughn has obviously shown he can handle the backup spot. Then in the draft we get another point guard to put in Beno's spot. Hopefully that guy will be more tougher.
that is what beno needs to do but he would rather tell the media that it is pop's fault
beno will get traded now as soon as spurs can get a deal for him
Trade Beno+Scola+2nd rounder for a 76ers first rounder from the nuggets. Vaughn has obviously shown he can handle the backup spot. Then in the draft we get another point guard to put in Beno's spot. Hopefully that guy will be more tougher.
beno and scola for a first round draft pick is to much
3. Brezec is playing just to be coming from the bench in his near future. Knowing that and his bitter memories from the Pacers episode made him to leave his national team caps. Brezec has all ambitions in the NBA salary.
Beno has to have ambition suited for his abilities. He is a great shooter, a great passer and intelligent player able to run the game by himself. TP is the firststringer here and Pop is doing all he can to keep that going. So Spurs have two strongminded players, one of them is THE star, and the other is mostly and consistenly in the doghouse. Fine and have no problems if there is a lesson to learn. But I just cannot see the lesson. Spurs wanted to repeat and they failed. Failed in the running game with crippled veteran Nick van X. WITHOUT BENO.
4.All I am saying is this: Beno plays in a totaly different team now, and in this team he is not even an equal. Basicly he is like Bonner now, while fighting for minutes against a kid he demolished his entire childhood and a limited old team-oriented elder pointguard. Talk about humiliation!? Pop is fu**** with him alright. Beno needs to fight this through. This is not a different team?
Lets see. Tim is the center, Horry is not action-figure, Barry is a reliable shot, Manu is going from the bench, no interior defense, less blocks, weaker perimeter defense and after all: Parker became a good passer and a finisher-not just a speed freak. All this while Beno stayed in the doghouse. TP, Pops dream project, was building on his skills while Beno got the shaft with no experience.
i say we get a package together to the kings for ron artest
Beno isnt gettin minutes and scola's agent is whining like a until scola gets his money(which the Spurs arent gonna give him), so why not?
trading scola to the sixers is smart I think
but will sixers think he is to old?
Which teams could use a backup PG?
Which teams have a backup PG that would be interesting for spurs?
These are the times when I wish we had as much money as the Knicks. But we would use it right.
Isnt he 26?
3.- Brezec is working very hard - I don't care what his motivation is, he's working very hard. Beno is not. I want him to try and guard his man. If he fails he fails - but he must try first. He's not trying.
4.- I understand point 4 better now - although I disagree completely. Whatever the contributing factors (according to you) to Beno's situation today are, it does not excuse his lack of work ethics. TP, Manu, TD and everybody else have off nights (Beno on the other hand only had a few "on" nights) and will get torn appart on this board, so don't expect Beno to get a free pass because he was unjustly confined to the bench last year (a mistake that even Pop acknowledges). Beno needs to prove on the court that last year was a mistake.
As for ElliotFan and others who are screaming to trade him: please give me a good solution what to do if we do trade him - because Vaughn cannot be our backup guard.
No! don't even mention last night's game, he can't do it.
we need to find some gm dumb enough to take udrih and someone else for a rebounding big man
You know, Manu and Brent can play point guard too. They can all share the position.
For short stretches, that's okay. But the Spurs want a regular backup point guard. They were hoping Beno would become that this year. If the Spurs traded Beno, I would think they'd want a PG back. Right now, Beno's value is too low to trade though. To bad (for him and the Spurs) that they couldn't pull off the JJack trade.
Then lets just keep Beno for the rest of the year and then do my trade on draft night.
Would be nice to grab a Sixers 1st rounder, but IMO Sixers are going to tank the rest of this year, give up two of their 1st round picks to try to trade up to as high as possible a position for the Greg Oden sweepstakes.
With Oden being the next Tim Duncan you are going to see major manuevers to try and get him. Whoever gets that ping pong ball should be set for an 8 year run barring injury.
Why would they want Scola? Is he going to finally get out of his contract?
He better. For the spurs's sake.
I disagree with that.
Vaughn isn't the most gifted bb player but he can be a decent backup PG.
Vaughn is a solid defender, takes care of the ball, is smart and is a solid passer. On the offensive end, he is very limited but he knows it and doesn't try things he can't do.
The backup PG spot isn't 30 mpg : it's 12-14mpg in regular season and 10mpg in playoffs. Vaughn, even with his limited skills, has played more than 15mpg for six years. Spurs won't win games because of Vaughn but they won't lose games because of him.
With Beno at 100%, backup PG spot will be a strength for Spurs.
With Vaughn, backup PG spot will be average.
With Beno struggling and playing no defense, backup PG spot will be a weakness for Spurs.
I agree with your last paragraph, as long as Tony stays healthy (knock on wood, spit on the floor and all that).
Beno sucks so bad he makes Vaughn look good..
They both suck.
I just find it hilarious, how people can blame this on Pop.
How is this Pop's fault?
Are you kidding me?
Pop is King.
I like Vaughn too. Love his tenacious defense, passing and overall hustle. But he's a liability on offense and other teams know it. Like it or not, Beno absolutely has to develop for this team to be successful. Pop most recently referred to him as the best passer on the team and everyone knows he can shoot lights out. He's a good changeup guard for TP.
IMO, he's too talented to ship out and be allowed to develop in someone else's hands. He simply just needs grow up and take ownership of the fact that he has a ways to go to become a steady PG in this league.
At the same time, Pop should exert more patience too. He did this kid no favors by relegating him to 3rd string last season in favor of that washout NVE. Sorry, I can't let it go. I curse Pop and R.C. for making such a STUPID move.
Its his third year in the league.At the same time, Pop should exert more patience too
that .
Im tired of the constant bull excuses.
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