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    I don't watch dr. phil either. Heard this good'ole boy sound bite somewhere. I thought some of you rednecks would appreciate it.

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    I don't watch dr. phil either. Heard this good'ole boy sound bite somewhere. I thought some of you rednecks would appreciate it.

    Redneck?

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    Your heads on a swivel, Ray. You come from a time when parents urged their children to conform to authority. Dr. Phil would say " It's time to rise above your raising Ray".
    Your so full of yourself and it is all BS. I'll even bet your eyes are dark
    brown.

    What do you conform to. Nothing, I assume, which is reflected in your
    thinking process.

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    Well, ray, why don't you and the rest of the GOP backers take this war into your own hands. You go door to door in a city of 6M. You hand over YOUR kids to do it, not mine. You turn over YOUR bank accounts to fund it, not mine. YOU dodge incoming fire while your mind is confused about how the enemy continues to slip away. YOU shake your head about how everyone knows your coming.

    You see, Ray, I've played this game before, as a civilian. Have you?

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    Well, ray, why don't you and the rest of the GOP backers take this war into your own hands. You go door to door in a city of 6M. You hand over YOUR kids to do it, not mine. You turn over YOUR bank accounts to fund it, not mine. YOU dodge incoming fire while your mind is confused about how the enemy continues to slip away. YOU shake your head about how everyone knows your coming.

    You see, Ray, I've played this game before, as a civilian. Have you?

    What in the does that have to do with anything even close to the topic of the thread? Or for that matter, what in the does it have to do with what Ray just posted?

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    Well, ray, why don't you and the rest of the GOP backers take this war into your own hands. You go door to door in a city of 6M. You hand over YOUR kids to do it, not mine. You turn over YOUR bank accounts to fund it, not mine. YOU dodge incoming fire while your mind is confused about how the enemy continues to slip away. YOU shake your head about how everyone knows your coming.

    You see, Ray, I've played this game before, as a civilian. Have you?
    You prove my point so well. BS is your forte.


    That is all you have ever done, play games. Some of us have done
    things in a more serious nature.

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    It's wordplay from media outlets with differing opinions. Ray has a differing opinion. That's what this topic is about. The underlying question to this thread is how long do people defend an obvious mistake?

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    It's wordplay from media outlets with differing opinions. Ray has a differing opinion. That's what this topic is about. The underlying question to this thread is how long do people defend an obvious mistake?
    Mistake? In who's opinion, yours and some others. I don't consider it a
    mistake nor do others. So what is your point?

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    The point is, you have nothing to lose. You can throw out your opinion without ever having to back it up. Your opinions and pontifications of others may have an affect on my sons life. I'd appreciate it if you would shutup for now. Bush is about to beg you to allow him to make another mistake, but you have nothing to lose.

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    The point is, you have nothing to lose. You can throw out your opinion without ever having to back it up. Your opinions and pontifications of others may have an affect on my sons life. I'd appreciate it if you would shutup for now. Bush is about to beg you to allow him to make another mistake, but you have nothing to lose.

    Ray probably has kids, as well as Grandkids. His opinions and pontifications may affect their lives as well. Point is, he thinks he's right and so do you, so maybe both of you should just shutup for now.

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    Not a bad idea, JS. How do you feel about suiting up for duty?

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    Not a bad idea, JS. How do you feel about suiting up for duty?

    Nah, I decided not to take that route long ago.......well, ten years ago anyway when I graduated High School.


    But I have to ask, are you implying that I support the war in Iraq?

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    The point is, you have nothing to lose. You can throw out your opinion without ever having to back it up. Your opinions and pontifications of others may have an affect on my sons life. I'd appreciate it if you would shutup for now. Bush is about to beg you to allow him to make another mistake, but you have nothing to lose.
    Newsflash...just because you don't want your kid fighting in Iraq sure as doesn't mean others don't. Thankfully there are people unlike you who are willing to fight for this country. Thats great that you don't agree with the war but for all those who do not agree with it, there a load who do.

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    I wonder if we'd all get along if we met in person?

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    I bet we would.

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    In the beginning, yes. Now, I'm not sure, but in the beginning, yes.

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    I bet we would with the exception of Croutons. I can't see him ever exiting his bomb shelter.

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    In the beginning, yes. Now, I'm not sure, but in the beginning, yes.

    Nah, we would. We are all reasonably intelligent human beings that realize that the place for such discussion and "insult lobbing" that we do here is only appropriate for here. How many of us actually talk to others the way we talk to eachother here?

    Except for Boutons.

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    Maybe you're just turned off by Boutons clarity.

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    Maybe you're just turned off by Boutons clarity.

    Honestly, do you think the way Boutons explains his points comes off with clarity?

    Actually, now that I think about it, it's very clear what Boutons is saying at all times, it's just ing irritating to me that all the worlds problems since WWII stem from Bush and Bush alone.

    At least you and Chump use logic, he just uses hate..............In my opinion.

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    Maybe you're just turned off by Boutons insanity.
    Fixed it.

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    I think this administration has earned Boutons vulgarity.

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    By the way, I was at a dinner the other night talking to a retired colonel from the Army. I asked him some stuff about this particular war as he was heavily involved in the first gulf war. I asked him why we didn't whack Saddam the first time around and he explained that he and some other Colonel's actually wrote the study up while over there in regards to why we shouldn't go after him. The main reason he said, was that if we went over there then, we'd now be in year sixteen of what we are now in year four of.

    Pretty interesting stuff. He and many others knew it was a mistake back then even.


    I've never stuck up for the war in Iraq or defended why we went in the first place. What I've sutck up for is that we need to win the war now though, not withdraw immediately or slowly for that matter.

    Unfortunately, "winning" the war was and is pretty much impossible so I'm not really sure of the solution at this point. The Colonel told me he thinks they should cut their losses and head home, it's useless.


    You guys should like that post from me.

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    Nobody likes to lose, but you have to know when to run home and heal.

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    Nobody likes to lose, but you have to know when to run home and heal.

    See, I'm not even sure you could call it a "loss" though. We got rid of Saddam and at least attempted to bring some order to the country. It's not our fault that they're going to hate eachother because of religious differences. What the are we supposed to do about that?


    A poor job was done in researching what would happen if we went in there and did what we did. Probably could have been done much different, or dare I say, via some sort of proxy.

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