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    This is the first time in years I've wanted the Spurs to shake the roster up in midseason, but it's obvious this team is too old to compete for a championship. This team just doesn't look anything like the Spurs we've known for so many years. Man, that 63 win season last year was fools gold.

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    If they do trade 3 guys for Maggette, that leaves roster spots to pick up a promising big guy like Justin Williams. Oh, wait...
    The trade would most likely be Barry and Bonner for Maggette. Udrih isn't worth his expiring contract at this point.

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    The Clippers wanted Barry for his "basketball IQ" in hopes that it'd help them in the playoffs. Last night's game was a playoff type game. Barry played like garbage.

    It's human nature to want the guy shooting 55% on threes compared to the guy who went 1-11 in the last three games and did nothing in the biggest game of the year.
    Sorry man, Barry and Beno's sucking in San Antonio is well do ented over several years. If they wanted them before, they'll still want them now.

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    Yeah Peterson is Finley a couple years younger with herpes.




    not to go off topic, but it's hillarious how the city is praising the raps for their "rebirth" since they're a #4 seed as of right now


    Of course, no one mentions that this might be the worst eastern conference the NBA has ever seen.


    Apparently TJ Ford was the best trade of the summer

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    Dude, just ing do it. All three of those guys - send them. Get back Quentin Ross, too.
    The Clippers love Quentin Ross -- he's no "throw in" as far as they're concerned.

    If RC can pull off Barry and Udrich for Maggette, he should Exec of the Year for the rest of the decade. The Clippers think they can get an impact player like a Ron Artest. They may not be able to, but I doubt the Spurs can come even close to the best offers they'll receive. (Hope I'm wrong.)

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    I think and will continue to think that the sticking point in the Clipper trade was something besides the principals--picks or cash--and that both sides are content to wait until the deadline gets nearer. That's GM nature.

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    Sorry man, Barry and Beno's sucking in San Antonio is well do ented over several years. If they wanted them before, they'll still want them now.
    So you don't think Bonner playing well lately and Barry and Udrih sucking has anything to do with the Clippers all of a sudden wanting Bonner thrown in?

    Two weeks ago Elgin Baylor didn't know Bonner was on this team.

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    Mo Pete can also play good, solid defense.

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    The best offer they received from what I can tell is Barry and Beno from the spurs

    The Jazz want him but I don't know what they are offering.
    The Nets turned down a Maggette + Mobley for Carter trade
    The Heat want to trade Posey for him
    The Kings turned down the Artest deal.

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    I think and will continue to think that the sticking point in the Clipper trade was something besides the principals--picks or cash--and that both sides are content to wait until the deadline gets nearer. That's GM nature.

    but considering Maggette is just sitting there and hardly playing, don't you think they'd rather just get rid of him right away? I know Indy took their time with Artest, but just having a player take up a roster spot as dead space should encourage the Clips to make a move sooner than later.


    But things definitely get interesting/desperate around the trade deadline.

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    So you don't think Bonner playing well lately and Barry and Udrih sucking has anything to do with the Clippers all of a sudden wanting Bonner thrown in?

    Two weeks ago Elgin Baylor didn't know Bonner was on this team.
    I think we never know the full story. If Baylor is working on the kind of scouting you describe he should keep Maggette.

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    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TRADE FOR MOPETE
    THE SPURS WILL NOT REGRET IT!!!


    and give the raptors a break, a lot of the players had never played with each other before and were still getting used to it

    you can obviously tell they're getting better, i mean - 2 point loss to PHX without TJ Ford or Garbajosa? Even though I knew they wouldn't win, they sure as put up a good fight.

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    but considering Maggette is just sitting there and hardly playing
    He just played 40 minutes a couple of days ago and almost 27mpg for the season.

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    I think and will continue to think that the sticking point in the Clipper trade was something besides the principals--picks or cash--and that both sides are content to wait until the deadline gets nearer. That's GM nature.
    I don't think the Clips have any intention of waiting much longer. I understood that they want the trade done by next week.

    But I agree picks/cash/etc might be the make it or break it. The Clips aren't going to get a "name" player for Maggette. So if "basketball IQ" and outside shooting is what they are looking for, then I think they'll work on making something work to get Barry.

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    I think we never know the full story. If Baylor is working on the kind of scouting you describe he should keep Maggette.
    If you are the Spurs, do you trade Bonner and Barry for Maggette with no Bonner replacement on the horizon?

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    If you are the Spurs, do you trade Bonner and Barry for Maggette with no Bonner replacement on the horizon?
    If he's taking Finley's place in the small-ball lineup, sure.

    (PS - the only big guys in the D-League with that range are Jawad Williams (who is pretty much becoming Lee Nailon) and a seven foot teenager who weighs as much as Bruce Bowen)

    If Maggette is really as good as everyone thinks, why not?

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    I'm with you timvp. I'm very happy the Spurs are looking at a trade for Maggette but I'm very pissed they waited this long before jumping at the chance of trading Barry and Beno. If we have to give up Bonner for him you still do it but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth because Horry is finished.

    I don't understand why the FO has been two steps behind this forum when they get paid handsomely to run the organization. God help us if they decide that the third swingman will be Finley. Wouldn't that be the defacto case if we lose both Barry and Bonner?

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    a seven foot teenager who weighs as much as Bruce Bowen
    If you're looking for a Dirk-stopper, that's more or less what you want. If he can move well laterally, his strength doesn't matter - Dirk will only back his defenders down to 12 feet in and then shoot fadeaways, so length is the most important asset. The lack of bulk is actually an advantage if it can make him more likely to cover Dirk's drives well.

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    I'm with you timvp. I'm very happy the Spurs are looking at a trade for Maggette but I'm very pissed they waited this long before jumping at the chance of trading Barry and Beno. If we have to give up Bonner for him you still do it but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth because Horry is finished.

    I don't understand why the FO has been two steps behind this forum when they get paid handsomely to run the organization.
    Yeah, it's annoying that they can't even see their own players and figure out when it's a good time to sell high. Not offering Beno and Barry because of some BS ballhandling argument is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

    God help us if they decide that the third swingman will be Finley. Wouldn't that be the defacto case if we lose both Barry and Bonner?
    If Maggette comes, then the three man rotation would be Manu, Bowen and Maggette. My dream scenario is putting Maggette in the starting lineup and bringing Manu off the bench. That'd give the Spurs the biggest bench weapon in the league and would speed Maggette's growth. Not to mention the added rebounding to the starting lineup.

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    If you're looking for a Dirk-stopper, that's more or less what you want. If he can move well laterally, his strength doesn't matter - Dirk will only back his defenders down to 12 feet in and then shoot fadeaways, so length is the most important asset. The lack of bulk is actually an advantage if it can make him more likely to cover Dirk's drives well.
    I like the guy, but he is in no way ready for prime time.

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    Brent
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    Maggette
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    We need a list of people who are on the trading block and are realistic options; if that's not too much to ask..

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    and a seven foot teenager who weighs as much as Bruce Bowen
    Ricky Sanchez would be a pretty nice investment for a team to pick up and stash on their IR for a couple years. Denver gave up their rights to him, right?

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    How about this trade?

    San Antonio Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Brent Barry
    Eric Williams
    Matt Bonner

    Incoming
    Ron Artest


    Sacramento Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Brad Miller
    Ron Artest

    Incoming
    Eric Williams
    Cuttino Mobley
    Corey Maggette


    L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Cuttino Mobley
    Corey Maggette

    Incoming
    Brent Barry
    Matt Bonner
    Brad Miller


    Successful Scenario
    Due to San Antonio, Sacramento, and L.A. Clippers being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. San Antonio, Sacramento, and L.A. Clippers had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    after reading this article...i think spurstalk is read by the front office. it's almost like they checked in to see what our thoughts were and intimated this to ludden.

    i'm happy with what i read...spurs finally realize that the sky is falling. i'm with Timvp...the FO should not have hesitated on the beno/barry trade for c. magg b/c if they wanted 2 "capable" ball players for the playoffs...beno/barry's performance in the dallas game pretty much dispelled that notion. now we risk losing our high energy bonner...it's like a comedy of errors. the one bench player, playing worth a damn may end up leaving. holt should fire the entire FO...it has to be full of ing yes men or former tennis players trying to run a b-ball team.

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