Bruce Bowen's Value

[T Park]

You think that Memphis would deal us one of their 9 billion talented swingmen after their horrible start?

To a team within there own division and conference?
Yeah makes sense.


They end up with 20 or 30 points but end up taking 20 or 30 shots.

Once again, who was availablethey shouldve gotten, and who should they have traded.

, no answers.

[ChumpDumper]

Eddie Robinson was a suggetsion more for my own amusement. We know the Spurs refrain from bringing in and/or retaining young, black street player with at ude.

Name someone that can actually get PT on the ing Bulls next time.

Oh wait -- we already have the guy that beat him out.

Nevermind.

Did you never watch Linton in all those Bull games you claim to have seen or did your ballavision not extend beyond Crawford?

Yes we are size challenged at the swing spots. I have been saying this since Hedo was let go. Nice of you to catch up.

[wildbill2u]

I think Brodels has a lot of sense in his analysis. We is what we is and we got there through market forces.

Bowen is a veteran with good defensive skills who fits into the 'defense first' scheme that defines the Spurs. He may be reacting to everyone's complaint that he can't shoot by trying that pump fake on the three and then driving for the pull up jumper. It ain't working but that's what everyone wanted out of him.

If the NBA had no cap (or the Spurs had more money)...wouldn't it be nice to have Hedo on the bench at 6'10'' for defending some of those long forwards. No? OK.

Wouldn't it be nice if Devin really blossomed this year and picked up some of Bowen's time? Sure. Could happen. Might happen.

We is what we is--and that ain't bad--just three games into a long season.

[Ghost Writer]

Hey, T Park and Chump, go fvck yourselves.

Don't get mad at me because your favorite team has flaws.



We never should've let Jackson go.

Crawford was a missed opportunity.

Hedo was never the answer at the 3.

Bowen still is one dimensional.

I'd take Eric Williams over Bowen.

He was available.

Now watch your tone with me, c0cksvckers.

I was calm and cool before you two d1ckheads had to start sh1t.

[timvp]

We never should've let Jackson go.

Brent Barry. Stephen Jackson.

Pick one.

[ChumpDumper]

Crawford was a missed opportunity.

Crawford would never ever have come here. Less fables, please.

Hedo was never the answer at the 3.

He sure as defended the likes of Odom better.

Bowen still is one dimensional.

No . Bring something better than ERob and a brief history of your whining.

[Ghost Writer]

Jackson.

And I love Barry for many of the same reasons. Intensity. Vocalism. Skills. Slashing. 3-point shooting.

But Jackson was younger and could've been had for cheaper.

And if we took care of Jackson last, last summer... I am convinced we beat LA and I like our chances against Detroit.

P.S.

Let the record show that Chump and T Park insulted me for no reason. It's like these tricks liked it better when they could just fellate each other online after Spurs games and just lay-low after losses. Well, I'm back to bring the pain.

[ChumpDumper]

Let the record show all you brought was ERob.

E

Rob.

[timvp]

Ghost, I think the major difference between the two is Barry has a high basketball IQ while Jack has a history of hitting big shots. So you either have a player who hasn't proven whether he's clutch or an erratic player who hits big shots. Give and take.

This year's playoffs will determine who is right. If Barry hits the big shots that Jack hit, then the Spurs made the right decision. If not, Jack will smile.

Again.

[Ghost Writer]

Read, pr1ck.

I mentioned Eddie Robinson half-kiddingly.

You jumped on it just like the cretins who turned a valid statistical comparison between Chris Whitney and Tony Parker into a mantra for homers through Spursdom.

E-Rob is a balla who deserves to be passed over by the Spurs. He truly is devoid of character and work ethic, unlike others who the Spurs simply shy away from because of stereotype.

Name a few foreign players who have a history of bringing it in the playoffs.

[ChumpDumper]

Name something to do that doesn't involve using your balla wayback machine.

For once.

[Ghost Writer]

Not that I think Brown is starting-quality, but I'd entertain him over Bowen, especially if he thinks he's found an outside shot. I know his D is not as good as Bowen's, but I still believe that it's better to let your guy score 25-30 and you score 10-15, than yeilding 20-25 and scoring 5-10. You have to make team defenses honor you when you are on offense to open things up for the rest of your team.

Bowen blows.

[ChumpDumper]

Too bad Brown wasn't scoring last game either. Might have made an argument for himself.

[tlongII]

I try to watch Spurs' games to get a take on them, but I always fall asleep by halftime.

[Ghost Writer]

Like I said before, if you could combine the best of Bowen and Brown, you'd have the type of starting swingman we're looking for.

We could call him Stephen Jackson.

[jcrod]

GW, I agree with you somewhat on Bowen. His defense is defintely not what it use to be, age will eventually catch up with you. But he still was the best available for what we needed. SJ got mid level 5.4, we couldn't afford him, again.

How is hanging on SJ jock going to help anything. Its done, nothing we can do about it.

You want E. Rob, suggestion I know you were just throwing it out there. But LJ is somewhat similar, so why bother. Who else is out there?

[Jimcs50]

Ghost do you want to have Bowen guarding Manu or Barry in the playoffs?

no we do not want to trade him.

[Ghost Writer]

Eric Williams wound up on the Nets this past offseason.

I like him better than Bowen.

E-Rob is not an option.

[timvp]

Eric Williams
MPG - 28
PPG - 4.7
FG% - .211
3P% - .250

Bruce Bowen
MPG - 26.3
PPG - 5.0
FG% - .316
3P% - .429

Thank God GW isn't RC.

[Spurminator]

I like him better than Bowen.

Why?

[Brodels]

Not that I think Brown is starting-quality, but I'd entertain him over Bowen, especially if he thinks he's found an outside shot. I know his D is not as good as Bowen's, but I still believe that it's better to let your guy score 25-30 and you score 10-15, than yeilding 20-25 and scoring 5-10. You have to make team defenses honor you when you are on offense to open things up for the rest of your team.

Bowen blows.

So you're happy with Manu and Barry having to guard the league's best swingmen. That's a recipe for fatigue and will hurt their offensive games.

Brown is the future. Bowen is still the present.

[Spurminator]

If you want someone who will score 10-15 ppg, Eric Williams is not your guy.

He's shooting 21% this year... as a power forward... IN THE EAST.

Frankly, I'd rather have ERob at the swing spot.

[Brodels]

Eric Williams wound up on the Nets this past offseason.

I like him better than Bowen.

E-Rob is not an option.

Ghost, with all due respect, Eric Williams blows. He can't do anything offensively either.

Would you really rather have Williams starting? He's been awful so far this season, and he doesn't do any one thing really well.

[ChumpDumper]

E-Rob is not an option.

Gee, neither is Jack or anyone else you've brought up.

[Ghost Writer]

Why don't you post Eric Williams' career numbers vs. Bruce Bowen's?

We're a week into the season.

timvp I know you and wifey are down with Bowen, but he sucks.

And Chump, the front office could've traded over the years or signed an upgrade over Bowen. The retained his services willingly.

I just don't see how he can be justified any longer.