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After getting rid of Finley to avoid paying the tax?
They don't apply.
At the very most, that's two teams.
Dallas still applies.
After getting rid of Finley to avoid paying the tax?
They don't apply.
At the very most, that's two teams.
They aren't on the spending spree they used to be... and getting rid of Finley was a basketball decision as much as a financial one, wouldn't you agree? They had far better players waiting behind him.
The point stands: we're constricted by finances. Dallas, while reeling it in a bit, is able to spend where they have to. And they're reaping the benefits of being able to spend big in the past. All their talent was expensive.
No. If the other guys were better, they simply should have been moved ahead of him in the rotation, it's not like Fin would have turned into a cancer.and getting rid of Finley was a basketball decision as much as a financial one, wouldn't you agree?As is everyone else in the league save the Knicks. Expecting the Spurs to spend $100 million a season is just silly.The point stands: we're constricted by finances.
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Incredible thread. I'm really enjoying it.
what would Spurs and Dallas fans say if probably the biggest rivalry right now made a trade with one another....
You ers whine 2 much... It's mid-January!
Spurs need a decent backup PG and a big. Neither Maggette or JR Smith address those needs.
its funny how easy it is to criticize and whine about what we don't have, but very few come out and say we need to go get player x. some say player x was available in the summer but i still don't know who that is....i'll stick with thel line from hoosier...this is our team, so lets quit ing about what do don't have and support what we do...unless of course you're able to tell me not only who you want on this team, but who you are willing to give up to get him on this team...now shut up and play some ball
Its not up to SequSpur or anyone else on this board to get the players to improve the spurs or even to suggest who to get. Its Pop and RC who need to step up and make it happen. But I don't see any results in making the team better with smart moves.
Every year good players are available and switch teams and the spurs never seem to be willing or able to get any of these top players, instead settling for role players or trading for guys they keep for a year or so.
Name all the good trades or fa signings the spurs have pulled off in the last 6 or 7 years? And compare that to all the players that switched teams through trades or fa and you see the spurs are not doing a good job. They have a history of discussing pulling the trigger on trades and then decide to play it safe and do nothing.
If your content with the job Pop and RC are doing in the trade and fa front then be ready to watch the current spurs roster age and be frustrated watching Duncan try to win with a less then stacked deck come playoff time.
You sound like nothing more then a cheerleader. Support your team and do not say anything that may be viewed as critical to the team.
If I was in charge the spurs would have Duncan and Parker as its core and I would have targeted players like R Wallace, Vince Carter and Caron Butler when these guys were available for cheap. Any of these players with Duncan and Parker would make the spurs better then they are now.
Why not? You just did and always have.ts not up to SequSpur or anyone else on this board to get the players to improve the spurs or even to suggest who to get.
Its not our job. Lets see the guys in charge make some things happen on the trade front.
To say you should not discuss or complain if you don't say who to get and how to get those players makes no sense because even if we say who to get and how to get them it doesn't make any difference.
The end results are what the spurs are doing and I am not seeing anything that is making the team better.
So idle ing is the best ing.
Understood.
1) As long as Parker Ginobili and Duncan are in, there won't be loosing seasons. Pre-requisite for having a chance at the le.
2) I read too much panic. A month ago Spurs at the top of the world.
All of the sudden they a bunch of loosers.
Ridiculous.
Veterans know that they have to peak in spingtime.
4/5 seed is OK. Home court advantage is very thin in 7 game series.
When the games will matter, you'll see a lot more open shot misses from the Hinrichs and Gordons.
3) The only serious problem I see is back-up point guard.
This Udrih guy is the paradigm of a looser. He is good for Memphis or NYK.
4) If they have a chance of getting JR Smith, go and get the guy. Enormous potential.
Every year, most of those teams don't make the playoffs, or go out in round 1. I'll take Pop, RC, and company. We don't win every year, but we are in position to win almost every year, and they re-load pretty quickly. Most team's fans would kill for this team to follow, but just be a perrenial rascal. You don't deserve to be a Spurs fan. This isn't about criticism. This is about a years-long fest, spanning at least two championships. You never let up. You never say ANYTHING positive. When things are good, you just ing disappear. Do us all a favor and make it permanent. You have issues and need professional help.
Vince Carter is available again....
They should have just let Ginobili go for nothing so they would have the money to sign a player in 2004. Ginobili is one of the worst shooting guards in the league and has no trade value. So the Spurs are left with no options.
But I would probably trade Parker too since he sucked in the 2005 playoffs. Ginobil sucked too. Anyone can do what they have done the past few years. I don't understand why you support Parker. He has been in the league for many years and hasn't shown any evidence of superstar ability, in the playoffs he actually plays horrible.
I think if the Spurs had 4 random role players they might have a better record then they do now. Ginobili and Parker are hogging the ball away from Duncan. The Spurs should go with what got them 58 wins in 2002. Duncan and basically 7-8 role players. Drob played 27mpg so he wasn't that good anyway back then. Duncan winning 58 by himself that year shows his supporting cast the last few years has been horrible because he can't even get the team about .700 ball this season without struggling.
Trade Parker and Ginobili. To say keep Parker is re ed because his playoffs were even worse then Ginobili's. Actually Ginobili sucked in all playoffs, and Parker was even worse.
Its clear they cannot help the team in the playoffs.
I agree with rascal, except that I think Parker sucks as well, not just Ginobili.
Pop and co. are basically re ed for not signing ONE good player for Duncan. I would trade Parker for Butler ina heartbeat. Butler could get 25-7-6 easy on this team because Duncan would get him wide open looks.
I laugh at people when they post that
kidd and nash played worse then tp did at that age
kidd even said so
young players make mistakes they get better with age
see what the chargers did against the pats
who would you trade manu for nikos?
I bet the nuggets would be instestered in manu
also manu has improved his outside shot this year
you look at duncan stats and his lack of d the first 32 games
maybe the spurs should consider trading him for a big instead of parker and manu
if you want to trade of the big three
Manu is just as good as Parker if not better. Even though I like Parker but that is going out on a limb now to say trade Manu.
Parker, Manu and Tim make us contend every year.
I agree. The Mavs and Suns are without a doudt playing at a higher level. But so were the Pistons this time last year. And look what happened. Guys! Calm down! Let the season play out.
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