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    Sorry. If you are trying to argue the Os were a good team, I'm not buying it. If you are trying to argue they were all All Stars and the pitchers made them go sub-500 I'm not buying it. If you are trying to argue that it was Corky's fault they sucked, I'm not buying it. He actually played only 100ish (103 or something) games for them. He started out good and went into a slump, during which he got moved to 7th in the order, a move he admittedly hated and whined and cried about. He hit 35 homers 2 years ago and 40some the year before that. Saying he might hit .280 was likely a little over the top, but was trying to make the point that this is a win-win situation for the Rangers. They are paying next to nothing to give someone that hit .290 with 50 homers within the past 5 years. Being bitter that he did not work out for you as an O's fan does not change this.

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    Nope, never argued that they were a good team. Only said that the middle of their line-up that year was likely better than what the Rangers will be trotting out this season (which isn't really arguable unless you want to completely ignore numbers). Although, I re-iterate that line-up protection is irrelevant because nobody has pitched around Sosa since his second to last year in Chicago.

    And Sosa was as big a part of the birds' failure in 2005 as anybody. Certainly there were others, but with the possible exception of Sidney Ponson, it is impossible to argue that anybody on that team had a worse season than he did.

    The good start he got off to that year was a .780 OPS in April (still well below the league average for RFers). It was down to .620 overall by the end of May. (And his 35 HRs were 3 years ago, not 2).

    With a minor league deal, it's absolutely no risk to the rangers, so I don't fault them unless they actually put him on the team. I just see it as a low risk/low reward. Aging players with slowing hands don't magically start turning on big league fastballs again.

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    lose lose

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    ???????? HUH?

    The 2005 Orioles had some ty pitching, but...

    Brian Roberts (.902 OPS) + Mora (.822 OPS) + Tejada (.864 OPS) + Palmeiro (.820+ OPS before steroid suspension) + Gibbons (.833 OPS) + Lopez (.780 OPS)

    = significantly better protection than he is going to get from the Rangers line-up this season.

    Besides, protection in the order has absolutely nothing to do with his complete inability to turn on a quality fastball. Slowing hands won't improve with age.

    i like the fact that your a k-state fan. but come on baltimore sucks balls.

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    tejada is the only thing theve had since ripkin.

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    i like the fact that your a k-state fan. but come on baltimore sucks balls.
    what part of "better protection that the rangers line-up" are you guys reading and turning into me saying that Baltimore was a good team?????

    And Markakis will be the best thing in Baltimore since Ripken.

    and yes, i too, like the fact that i am kstate fan .

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    Did you go to school there? I always thought Manhattan was a ... well... dismal little town. Am I completely off base?

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    Yep, I'm an alum and yes, you are off base. Actually, I never thought it was signficantly different from Stillwater.

    Always rooted for Okie State, A&M, and Iowa State as I have seen a lot of similarities between the Ag schools in this conference. The Land Grant schools need to stick together.

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    BUMP.

    I do have to say, I didn't think Sammy would hit 4 HRs all year. But that .650 OPS isn't making it look like he is too far away from the waiver wire either.

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