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so a Barbosa, Bell, Diaw, Marion, Stoudemire lineup would suck?
I don't think Dirk should be MVP actually. While he is extremely good, take him away from the Mavs and they can still win, but without Nash, the Suns would suck ass.
so a Barbosa, Bell, Diaw, Marion, Stoudemire lineup would suck?
Probably. Without Nash, they would be decent, but they probably couldn't get each other involved. I remember back in 04-05 when Nash was out for a few games, the Suns went like 0-6 in that span after being something like 31-3.
??????????? Amare played only one game last year; Nash led his team to the conf' finals, and they were close to make the Finals
tonight magic talked about arenas and kenny said, arenas makes areans look great but he doesn't make the team better and barkley names like six guys in the running for mvp, "wade, nash, kobe, arenas, dirk and lebron
Last edited by ponky; 01-16-2007 at 02:15 AM.
uh, that is some sig you have there....haha, it's actually pretty funny in a slightly disturbing way
i would be so pissed if dwayne wade won MVP. the thing that seperates him from the kobe's...the t-mac's, the dirk's is his ability to knock down those SHOTS. for example, nba's best defender ron artest is gaurding tracy mcgrady in crunch time. t-mac has the ball at the top of the 3 pt arch. shoots...bang! right in ron's eye he drains it. kobe does it a lot, too. i dont see wade do that a lot. what he does is take it to the rim, that's easier to do.
Barbosa and Marion are almost useless at both ends in a halfcourt game, Diaw's a unique complimentary piece but hardly a dominant player, Bell is a decent defensive player who's miraculously developed a jumpshot since signing with Phoenix, and Amare Stoudemire scores the majority of his points in the open floor and running pick-and-rolls - yes, it helps to have by far the best pick-and-roll point guard in the game on his team.
They wouldn't suck, but they wouldn't win their division either, even if they had a borderline all-star point guard like Tony Parker, Jason Terry, or Chauncey Billups running the show.
they went 1-1 when nash sat out this season (november?) and year before last (2004-05), when amare was playing, they played only three games w/o nash...they won two of those games (clipper, mavericks) before losing to the celtics in ot
after the way kobe schooled wade on defense, i would tend to agree...wade had to go to the line 13 times to get his points and kobe went three times but the D kobe played on wade at the end of the game was great...wade took three shots with plenty of time to try and win the game for his team, the last one was the easiest and he couldn't get it done thanks to kobe sticking with him, no double-teams needed
Yeah all Kobe did was play the drive all night. Wade couldn't hit the shots over him.
Not if Dirk leads the Mavs to a le this year and the Mavs come out playing like this next season - then it will be Dirk's most definitely.
Either way, Dirk's played like the MVP since January 1.... actually, since he hit that game winner against the Suns... he's got his first legit shot right now at winning it.
Gilbert Arenas if the Wizards finish a top 5 seed.
Last edited by Doghouse MD; 01-16-2007 at 02:48 AM.
Kobe and Arenas if their teams keep winning.
Kobe makes his team better, he's upped his assists and gets guys involved, not always focusing just on scoring...Arenas just scores while the rest of his team stands around....and when it comes to defense, there is just no comparison, Kobe >>>>>> Arenas in that category
No, in 04-05, they played about 5 without him and went 1-4... they were 30-4, then ESPN ran an article led "Sunny and 70?" asking if the Suns could win 70 games, and then Nash got hurt and they lost to the Pacers among others on a Eastern swing. I remember that very well because Marc Stein mentioned it in his power rankings and D'Antoni lost the All-Star coaching job to Popovich, which you can see here: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerr...n=2005&week=12.
Last year, 05-06, they went 2-2 without him or Amare (I believe) and lots of people credited that to the deeper bench and emergence of Diaw as additional ball handler. One of those losses was a huge blowout against the Spurs on ESPN, where Raja Bell started at point.
And T-Mac if he doesn't get hurt again and keeps winning till Yao gets back.
even better...i made a mistake and meant 05-06, nash was out 3 games, right after the all-star break and that spurs game you're talking about, i'll give you that but c'mon it's the spurs...and they still beat the mavs
anyway, dirk/nash being out is a moot point...neither one of them tends to miss many games and this year, that was my point
nash doesn't deserve mvp but that's moot too...cuz he ain't gonna get it
We all know it's Jerry Stackhouse
Arenas is like AI mostly....
hogs the ball, scores a lot of points (and likely care about that more than W's)
his team will never go far in the playoff's
Arenas simply isnt even close to the likes of Dirk, Nash, Wade.....
kevin martin!
can u believe that crap, i mean obviously kevin martin wont win it but hes not even on the ballot to be voted for! he's played a whole lot better than a lot of other players who were on that ballot
^^^ who were the players on the ballot?
Comparing Nash's #'s this year to the past 2 yrs, I don't see how he can't get it again...
It'll come down to Dirk and Nash...co-MVP's...
Durk.
Good.
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