with or without maggot, we are still exiting in the 2nd round
But we know what we have in Beno and Brent - two scrubs who choke when the chips are down in a big game or the playoffs. We know they won't help, so ing nut up and make the trade already and see what you get."The risk is, we wouldn't be sure what we are getting. Potentially, he could be a boom. In reality, maybe he creates problems.
What I didn't like about the vagueness is this.
The article is called "A Monday for Maggette" which should mean that he's saying that the Spurs needed Maggette in Monday's game.
However, he then says this:
Okay, so then he's saying that Maggette wouldn't have helped today.Maggette wouldn't have altered the outcome unless he also has a secret ability to inspire Tony Parker.
But wait, now this:
Okay, now he's saying that whatever the Spurs need to start winning is probably not available but that Maggette is the best out there.Whatever is missing on the Spurs might not be available with a trade. But even as the Spurs see the flaws in Maggette, they see more in him than in others who are available.
And then he follows it up with:
Thanks.Here's what I know now:
The Spurs are closer to the sixth seed than the first.
Shaun Livingston twisted his ankle in today's game.
Beno to the rescue?
All the slovenian brandy in the world I don't think would help with that.
Although Beno's recent scoring step up, today included, can't hurt.
We're closer to throwing in that pick.
I don't think a first round pick seals the deal.
I may be nieve, but I think its gotta take wayy way more to get him.
Yeah, you're 'nieve'. That's all they've been asking for, with Brent and Beno.
No one believes Maggette is some sort of savior. The Spurs need an immediate injection. Sure it's a risk. However I'll like what this team could become with Maggette more than what they currently are without him.
Other than that one Johnny Ludden article, I haven't seen any more confirmation on that.That's all they've been asking for, with Brent and Beno.
If it was what they wanted, you would've seen more confirmation from other sources of thats what the Clippers want, wanted, or offered up.
The Clippers have said it themselves: veteran player, young talent, first round pick. Out of the mouth of their GM.
I don't think that Barry and Udrih are good enough to qualify for either.
Maggette is the most cartoonish-looking player in the NBA, I think - his arms are straight out of the NBA Showtime arcade game and his face is a quasi-Japanime drawing.
Spurs can't miss out on that kind of athletic and humerous interjection into the lineup
Simple
The spurs suck with or without Magette in the lineup
Suns and Mavs are pleying better than Spurs for the moment.
A player like Maggette can really help us but Spurs' troubles can't only be solved by trades : Some players need to do something : Duncan must be less lazy, Udrih must play at his real level, Finley/Barry must hit their shots, Elson must start to understand defensive rotations...
Anyway, trade or no trade, I still think that Spurs have a good chance to win a ring in june.
Come playoff time I'd rather watch Maggette drive to the hoop then watch Finley chunk 3s. So if Maggette really is a possibility please do it and also give him all Finley's minutes while you're at it.
Think what you want, but that's what they've asked for. You must think other teams are offering the moon. If the Spurs offered Barry, Beno, and their 2008 pick, Maggette would be on a plane to SAS.
The Spurs would be much more willing to take that chance at Maggette is he didn't have 3 years left on his contract.
I think he was just trying to cover all the bases.
1.Magette has some skills we could use-toughness, rebounding, inside game
2. he has some flaws that are probably part of his makeup and can't be easily changed.
2(a) His flaws make him hard to work into the Spurs system.
3. We don't have the best trade bait out there so it may be academic
4. The trade would be a risk because of number 2.
In the end, he was subtly and cautiously approving the trade without actually saying pull the trigger, but he can always point out his downside comments if Magette doesn't work out and say "Who me?"
Buck Harvey and I are best friends.
I take from it that a Maggette deal is a possible maybe.
What I don't get is this: surely the Spurs front office realizes that it is unlikely that this group will be able to get through Dallas in a 7 game series. (ouch, it hurts to say that, still). We can't be sure how they'll match up with the Suns right now, given that we haven't seen the Spurs deal with a returned to nearly full strength Amare yet, but I suspect that many here share my view that the Spurs are likely to struggle with the Suns' athleticism. At a minimum, there are at least 2 teams in the conference that the Spurs aren't likely to beat in a playoff series. And at this point, the Spurs are going to probably have to beat one of them in the WCSF and the other in the WCF if they plan on winning another le. Good luck.
I don't understand, given all of that, why things like chemistry and ballhandling are viewed as potential deal-breakers. Do they plan on saying "well, we had a group that really got along well together," as they consider why they were run out in the 2nd round by Phoenix? Do they think we'll find solace in the fact that at least there weren't too many ball-handling turnovers along the way -- that it was just too much firepower that killed the Spurs and not mistakes?
I find both of those concerns to be rather ridiculous. Why not be bold, make a move and see what happens? Can it really get much worse (in a relative sense)? I'm not sure I understand the single-minded focus on Maggette. But whether it's Maggette or someone else with a similar skill set, the Spurs are in desparate need of that kind of player. Make that deal. If you need a ballhandler, the expiring contract of Eric Williams is available to send out for a role player who can handle.
Something has to change or the end of this sucker is upon us.
Buck Harvey can't be held accountable for what he writes if nobody understands it.
I don't understand how a guy can be "notoriously selfish" and also a good guy who his teammates like. Does he turn into a ball-fiending maniac the moment he steps on the court?
I love the anonymous quotes from Spurs "officials." I mean, realistically there are probably "maybe" 3 people inside of the organization that would even have a "clue" or an inside look at "real" and not BS opportunities.
At this point in the season we are first round fodder... no irrational thinking after one loss just accepting the fact that this team is not good enough to compete for a championship..
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