Really? If they want the public thrashings to stop they do.
This from the person that claims I've repeatedly posted about Obama. I'm not afraid, I merely wondered what makes him qualified to be President -- more so than the other Democratic contenders? So far as I can tell, it's merely the fact that he's partially black.
Wow, you don't give the other Democrats much credit there, do you? How is that thanks to Bush?
I'm telling you, the guy will never survive the Hitlary political machine.
Nah. You guys are too sensitive to criticism.Really? If they want the public thrashings to stop they do.No, I don't.Wow, you don't give the other Democrats much credit there, do you?He has ed over the Republicans for years.How is that thanks to Bush?Then you have nothing to worry about. No more posting necessasry.I'm telling you, the guy will never survive the Hitlary political machine.
So, what are you afraid of? I thought this was a political forum and that Obama was a politician.
I'm not afraid of anything. It's entertaining how everyone is able to project their hopes and fears onto this one guy. So keep posting if you must. It says more about you than Obama.
Damn, I make my first comments about Obama and you accuse me of being afraid and of repeatedly posting on him. I'd say you're being defensive on his behalf.
Nah, I have no real opinion on him, except that I enjoy the fact he makes the righties here go ape . By all means, keep posting.
Your definition of "ape ," if indeed you're applying it too me and my opinion of Obama, is pretty weird.
I actually think I've posted more about your defensiveness over Obama than I have about Obama himself.
Keep posting.
Okay, thanks.
Be honest with yourself.... the media would eat Obama alive if it was ever rumored that he had been linked to cocaine in any form...... There isnt enough racism left in this country to keep a black man outta office? man what country do you live in... i see blind racism every day its not even funny..... do you know theres places in south carolina, where slaves were once sold, that are now national monuments.... why would we want to praise something like that?
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He admits to using it in the past.Be honest with yourself.... the media would eat Obama alive if it was ever rumored that he had been linked to cocaine in any form.
the questions will be raised as time gets closer to the elections...... just watch
I'm sure they will. It's just interesting it's not something that already out there and undisputed.
Thats called perceived racism. I dont know if youre Union or not, doesnt much matter. But I deal with all Union customers everyday, for nearing 7 years. Thanks to affirmative action, all racism in the work enviroment I am in, has been replaced by "instant handout for being a minority/woman."
Dont make me cite examples. Its not even worth it. The company I work for has been owned by a male forever up until this year. Why? Because if he puts it in his daughters names, its a humungous tax break AND (this is the kicker) his companies name's go to the top of the list when dealing with GM, Ford, Hyundai, TRW, Daewoo, etc.
Being a "Minority Company" gives this place a ing handout for no other reason than the persons ethnicity/gender.
I had reservations in the sense that it wouldnt make a big impact as he thought. Boy, was I totally wrong. Last year, total machines sold (not delivered, sold) = 28. Damn good year when you think each is worth almost $180k.
In October of 2006, he started the paperwork for the changeover. By late November he had a "Soon to be Certified" certificate from the powers that be (bunch of women's organizations, I couldnt name them all if I tried). He immediately sent that out to ALL customer contacts (contacts answer to their bosses about who they buy from and why).
December 2006. 7 machines sold with purchase orders.
January 2007. As of our Monday morning meeting, 6 more purchase orders for 12 machines.
Obviously, it cant keep this pace up (I hope, God, I hope). But our most modest projections based on customer needs, relation and forecast we are going to sell (not deliver) over 50 machines this year.
Thats incredible, and has no ryhme or reason than the extra 'umph' being a minority gives us. Because then GM, Ford, etc can tell Uncle Sam "Look, we did $XXXX.X million in business with minority owned companies, we get a tax break, right?" He says "Sure do, youre a uva an American."
National monuments to....what? Link?do you know some some places in south carolina where slaves were sold are national monuments.... why would we want to praise something like that?
That's because he's 1) a Democrat, 2) black, and 3) an Oprah fave,
Don't even see it on FoxNews.
That's because they're fair and balanced,
So, since FoxNews thinks it's a nonissue, it's a nonissue.
Or, maybe it really is a non-issue.
Are you going to contradict yourself in every thread?
i think all of it is a non-issue until there is only 1 dem and 1 rep running for president.
Obama is my homeboy
I hope this doesn't qualify me at posting "repeatedly" on Obama but, I thought this was interesting.
Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background
Ah yes, the vile "Obama is a secret Muslim" meme.
I've thought about this for a while. Isn't it enough that Obama is a flaming liberal? Aren't his positions on the issues so far from what conservative Christians believe that their voting for him would not even be a concern? Shouldn't his two whopping years of national political experience create pause given the current global climate?
Why would it be necessary to insinuate something so ridiculous as that Obama is a terrorist mole?
I know that Yoni doesn't care so much either way. He is more than anything else a partisan rather than a doctrinaire conservative, so if there is a meme to push, he'll push it. Whatever is good for the party.
I think what it boils down to, is that Obama, liberal, social-gospel late-converting Christian that he is, nevertheless has the ability to communicate with evangelicals. My own experience is that a lot of evangelicals stick by the Republican Party as an exercise in iden y politics rather than ideology. The Republican Party acknowledges God, and far too often, the Democratic Party, or at least its activists, want to marginalize faith.
And here is this Obama guy, on the one hand making the case to evangelicals that there is more than one way to look at politics through the eyes of faith, and on the other hand exhorting his own political fellow travelers to recognize the moral power of faith, and to forge dialogue with the evangelicals whom they instead have written off for the past 20 years.
It occurs to me that even if Obama lost, he could have the power to change the paradigm of the relationship between conservative Christianity and the Republican Party forever. So therefore, it is not enough to point out his hopelessly left-wing positions on the issues, or his utter lack of relevent political experience, because it is possible that a significant chunk of evangelicals might then conclude it is OK to have hopelessly left-wing positions on the issues, and that could be even worse for the GOP than to have President Barack Obama.
They must impugn his Christian faith. Pointing out that he is a member of a faith background (UCC) that plays fast and loose with the immutable tenets of Christianity isn't enough, because boy, he sure sounds Christian. So, in this age, what better way to impugn his faith than to conjure up the image of the Muslim bogeyman?
This is a dangerous gamble of a strategy, though, because it leaves Obama one Checkers speech away from making himself look like the sincere one, and his Religious Right detractors the wolves in sheep's clothing.
And I wouldn't want to bet against Obama's silver tongue in a situation like that.
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