A new thread with trades
wow - what a fresh breeze
what types of players are the Spurs looking for?
An athletic swingman, i know that one
A backup PG (ridding them of Beno)
what else? Or is it anyone in general just to shake the team up?
A new thread with trades
wow - what a fresh breeze
You seems to be in a bad mood, Poland.![]()
Calm down and stop being so sensitive.![]()
I know, its kinda like you complaining about women and sex - rehashed and rehased yet I doubt its the last we'll hear about it.
Its the biggest issue right now, of course there will be lots of threads on it.
I remember saying, few weeks ago, that GS was full of 2-3 and maybe something could be done with them. It's even truer now.
Pietrus would be nice... but possible ? I wish it could be but it seems very very difficult.
Poland is always in a bad mood.
I won't throw names (I've done enough in the past) but to me Spurs should to trades for :
- A backup PG : It's not a high priority given that Parker can play 40mpg in playoffs but Beno/Udrih have been bad this year. I don't think Spurs should give a lot (like a first round pick) or trade for a player with a big contract but if a cheap player is available, they should try to get one.
- An athletic SF : there are two possibilities :keeping Barry/Finley and geting a 5th swingman that will only play against dominant strong SF or trading Finley or Barry. Given Spurs troubles, I'm more for the big change and try to get a player like Maggette over a 5th swingman like Khryapa.
- A better PF : Spurs frontcourt was too slow last year. Duncan at C is the best solution in the "new" nba. Elson and Bonner have fasten Spurs' frontcourt but is it enough : Bonner is limited and injured, Has Elson enough BBIQ to play good team defense ?
- A big stiff : With Rasho gone, Spurs haven't anymore a big body to throw against Yao/Shaq. It's not a big need but if Spurs should find a cheap player to do that.
Lately, yes.
Please Poland, bring back old school Poland : he was one of my favourite poster.![]()
[QUOTE=Bruno]
- A better PF : Spurs frontcourt was too slow last year. Duncan at C is the best solution in the "new" nba. Elson and Bonner have fasten Spurs' frontcourt but is it enough : Bonner is limited and injured, Has Elson enough BBIQ to play good team defense ?
Maybe, but TD has always been more comfortable playing alongside another big. It releases him from some tasks.
Though, he was terrific last year against Dallas alongside Horry, so...
Well yes I am.
It's like I can't even start a thread on this board and everytime I post something I'm being called re etc. (accually that (being called) do not bother me, cause that suites to the persons who are saying that). So I make the responses.
Point two - The spurs are losing badly, and how can't I be in a bad mood?
And I mean mantal loses. THe loses inmside the team. It is ofcourse covered by a good humor from Pop and "well we are not playing great" by the players. But the feeling is not as same as it was previously.
That about it.
You kinnding me right?![]()
the blockbuster between Pacers and GSW left both teams with still some needs to adjust. this is something the Spurs could benefit from.
Pacers: are now definitly without a shooter and have stockpiled bigs (JO, Murphy, Harrison, Diogu, Foster, Baston). considering that also their three SFs (Granger, Dunleavy, Williams) are 6-9 and might also see some time at the PF spot in theses days (especially Granger), they will for sure try to get rid of one or two bigs and to get a shooter.
at PG they are worse than they were before, so there they also have needs.
and the fact, that they will be deep in lux tax land for the next years thanks to the big aquired contracts (and Granger will also ask for a decent contract soon).
so they will be open to get some expiring contracts.
this means, they would be interested in either Beno or Brent or E.Williams (his expiring contract)
they have some players who would definitly be helpful for the Spurs.
M. Daniels: young, versatile, athletic, good defender. didn't work that well in Indy, but is a typ of player we desperatly need. maybe isn't really expandable, now that the Pacers have a thin back-court, but I'm sure they would like to get rid of his contract.
any of their long SFs: problem is, that Dunleavy is to expensive, Granger is untradeable and Williams is to much of a project (like we already have in White)
Baston: not an outstanding talent, but he could be a Elson story with the Spurs. Spurs liked him for some time and had some talks this summer. he is on a cheap contract, so the risk would be low. I'm sure he can be aquired for 2nd round picks. he wouldn't be the savior, but his defense, rebounding and shotblocking would be a great help for our front court. he is quite quick, might be able to defend some of the tall SFs.
Foster: I'm sure they would give him away for just an expiring contract. they won't find many minutes for him in the new front court.
his rebounding and defense would be great and he is a hometown boy. the problem is, that (other than Baston) at 5.5 million per year he is a bit expensive for what he delivers.
all in all there is quite some stuff to talk about and the fact that the Pacers are playing in the East makes a trade more likely, than with teams in the West.
Ohh btw - Tell Pop to call me, I've got some new offensive tactics for him :P)
Against teams like Dallas or Lakers, TD defend the opposite C because he can't defend well on players like Odom and Dirk. In these matchups, Spurs need to have a quick big to plug with Duncan.
How about: Oberto/Udrih/ Williams for Jasikevicius/ Pietrus
GS gets: a big
SA gets: good rebounding wing and a decent backup PG with the ability to hit the 3, both have expiring contracts
I think a package of Barry/ Udrih and Williams might be very interesting for Indiana now...
Last edited by Streakyshooter08; 01-18-2007 at 06:15 AM.
If I have well understood, you are angry and you hjack each thread today because Kori has said that you shouldn't have started a thread on the same subject. I'm not here to defend here (she doesn't need at all someone to do it) but it's quite understandable that she is fed up to have 10 threads on the same subject after each loss. I guess that it was nothing personal, so forget it and move on.
Sprus sucking shouldn't be enough to put you in a bad mood, put things in perspective.![]()
I'd take Pietrus alone for Oberto/Udrih/ Williams.
yeah, my scooter has been stolen, few days ago. There IS something to really pissed about.
Well, if the Spurs could move their resting asses, I wouldn't mind though.
Another trade I would do is: (I know Indiana would not, but it works with the trade checker!)
Barry/ Udrih/ Williams for Granger/ Foster/ McLeod
i heard on espn things were reallly wrong between saunders and R wallace. now i don't know about his contract. And i'm not sure pistons would deal with us bbut it's an intriguing thought
Bruno:
For spurs - no perspective
Kori - I assume you it is a personal, but I espect Kori to sayR U talking about poland?
You cannot pull a reasoable trade right now.
I would love to have Quntin Ross as a spur but will not happen
I would love to have Kidd but it won't happen.
None of this trades will change the spurs mentality.
If Magette is unobtainable/too costly, Nachbar should be the next best option.
The Good:
Nachbar is versatile (can play sg, sf and pf), he's tall, athletic and has good shooting range. Has short and cheap contract.
The Bad:
D is suspect, but to be fair he was never really asked to play much defense, as most teams he's been on were run&gun, plus he's tall and mobile - that alone should be worth some defensive points.
His shooting is not all that great (half of his shots are 3pointers).
He's a Slovenian.
If the spurs want small ball, they should get him.
NAchbar for Williams.
Jason Richardson here would be like a dream come true, one of the best players to play against the Mavs (they can never stop him), and he's also one of the best clutch players.
They need a big shake-up, and anyone from that list could attribute to that shake-up.
me thinks keep barry and trade finley and udrih for someone who can rebound the goddamn basketball. we need to go back to playing old school smash mouth ball where a big man with some balls puts kobe on his ass when he tries to go into the paint. lets get a big that can grab some boards since horry is worthless and everyone else is too small (other than elson)
He was in college. As for the Nets, that's what happens when you've got Vince Carter and Richard Jefferson treating defense like it's the time you get to rest between offensive possessions.
He was a lockdown guy his senior year at A&M, and he would be again in the Spurs system. He's 6'7" with long arms.
He's not a bust, NJ is a bad fit for him playing with a bunch of chuckers.
Whoopdedoo. Williams + Barry for Rashard Lewis works in the trade checker too, doesn't mean it has a snowball's chance in of happening.
Kori asked for reasonable trade ideas. Indy isn't going to take our scrubs and expiring contracts for anything involving Danny Granger. Come on folks, be real.
Daniels didn't work that well in Dallas either. It's called a trend.
He's on a cheap contract, which for a team like Indy means he's a bargain and about as likely to be dealt as Lebron is to be traded for Beno.Baston: not an outstanding talent, but he could be a Elson story with the Spurs. Spurs liked him for some time and had some talks this summer. he is on a cheap contract, so the risk would be low. I'm sure he can be aquired for 2nd round picks. he wouldn't be the savior, but his defense, rebounding and shotblocking would be a great help for our front court. he is quite quick, might be able to defend some of the tall SFs.
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