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    Trade Duncan for KG

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    Nope, again the stats don't show it at all, and neither does his play on the floor.

    They should have gotten him more help though, when you score forty one points and grab fifteen boards and still loose it's obvious where the problem lies, and it's obvious where it doesn't...
    They are asking him to do to much. Score forty points and play all your post defense??

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    No way, and his stats don't show that at all.
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    I can't believe you're serious. True his numbers are okay, but his overall game is not. No way! Also the spurs always had a center to help Duncan and in the past he was more of a help defender, now he is the last line of defense for the spurs and he's failing miserably.

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    Also the spurs always had a center to help Duncan and in the past he was more of a help defender, now he is the last line of defense for the spurs and he's failing miserably.

    That's probably pretty accurate, but that wasn't your argument in your original post, which is still wrong...

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    That's probably pretty accurate, but that wasn't your argument in your original post, which is still wrong...
    Well it wasn't really an argument. I can clearly see that Duncans game has declined. I was kind of curious why some of you do not see the same.

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    Everybody is in decline

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    Everybody is in decline
    Not everybody, just some of those who have been in the league for along time and playing in the post will wear you out quicker than those who do not play the post.

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    Good teams do ratchet their play up in the playoffs because each game really means something.

    But all teams do it, so the question is whether the Spurs can ratchet their team play up to a higher level better than Phoenix or Dallas for instance.

    So far we haven't seen much team interest in playing better against elite teams during the regular season. And Pop still seems to be unsure of what he has to work with this year.

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    Good teams do ratchet their play up in the playoffs because each game really means something.

    But all teams do it, so the question is whether the Spurs can ratchet their team play up to a higher level better than Phoenix or Dallas for instance.

    So far we haven't seen much team interest in playing better against elite teams during the regular season. And Pop still seems to be unsure of what he has to work with this year.
    Good point. Pop seems lost in todays NBA. The spurs just don't seem like a team equipped to raise it up a notch in the playoffs. IMO

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    Wow, you sit someone out from the playoffs then let them blow a seemingly wrapped up series their next time in, and the fans come back with a vengence.

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    Not everybody, just some of those who have been in the league for along time and playing in the post will wear you out quicker than those who do not play the post.
    I was talking about the forum

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    I was talking about the forum
    my bad

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    Wow, you sit someone out from the playoffs then let them blow a seemingly wrapped up series their next time in, and the fans come back with a vengence.
    You don't keep the Lakers down long, our history says as much. We're Back after a short fall from grace.

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    Wow, you sit someone out from the playoffs then let them blow a seemingly wrapped up series their next time in, and the fans come back with a vengence.


    I get it, but at first I thought you were talking about the Spurs.

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    I've read a lot of the threads on this forum and the majority of the posters believe that the regular season is nothing and the spurs will turn it up in the Playoffs. My question, What makes you think this team will be able to turn it up in the playoffs?
    Historically speaking, more specifically during the Tim Duncan era, the Spurs have annually added a couple of new role players to the mix and the entire team has needed until March or so to really come together and start winning. I don't see this season as any different. I think the Spurs are not a flip switching team come playoff time, but they clearly gather momentum after the All Star break, historically speaking. Lately its been the infamous "rodeo road trip" which has righted the ship. However, this year's edition promises to be particularly brutal.

    Once the Spurs get to the playoffs, their defensive instincts, ability to play possession ball and run, either or, plus their rich experience among their key players, all translates into playoff ballers. I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I am certain that come playoff time the Spurs will be capable of beating any team in a series.

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    Historically speaking, more specifically during the Tim Duncan era, the Spurs have annually added a couple of new role players to the mix and the entire team has needed until March or so to really come together and start winning. I don't see this season as any different. I think the Spurs are not a flip switching team come playoff time, but they clearly gather momentum after the All Star break, historically speaking. Lately its been the infamous "rodeo road trip" which has righted the ship. However, this year's edition promises to be particularly brutal.

    Once the Spurs get to the playoffs, their defensive instincts, ability to play possession ball and run, either or, plus their rich experience among their key players, all translates into playoff ballers. I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I am certain that come playoff time the Spurs will be capable of beating any team in a series.
    Point taken! The only thing I would say is that the spurs always played well in the regular season too. What have they lost? 7 games at home? They lost seven games all of last season at home. This team just seems different to me from previous spurs teams.

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    Point taken! The only thing I would say is that the spurs always played well in the regular season too. What have they lost? 7 games at home? They lost seven games all of last season at home. This team just seems different to me from previous spurs teams.
    IŽll be honest with you. I'm disappointed with the Spurs' seemingly lethargic, take-it-for-granted play at home this season. Pretty pathetic. Then again, they've lost some tight ones. They've had a couple of injuries, like most teams, but a main culprit is just the terrible shooting of Mike Finley, Brent Barry lately and Robert Horry. Plus it seems like Parker, Ginobili and Duncan are rarely in sync, together, on an almost nightly basis. I think that time will straighten them out, but I must admit I have my concerns. Obviously age and wear and tear are among the big worries I have. All in all, I'm hoping that the Spurs can muster a deep run this season then somehow bring in an athletic perimeter player, a strong backup power forward and maybe see James White of my alma mater Cincinnati develop and earn a roster spot.

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    The Lakers have earned my respect this season. Well, they've never lost it, especially Kobe Bryant hasn't. The Lakers are looking damn good. Damn good and you know they're back for several years as long as Kobe and Phil are around.

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    The Lakers have earned my respect this season. Well, they've never lost it, especially Kobe Bryant hasn't. The Lakers are looking damn good. Damn good and you know they're back for several years as long as Kobe and Phil are around.
    thanks, I do believe Phil is going to resign for a few more years. We know we have a young team but we are very satisfied with our team. We couldn't image that the lakers would be so good so soon. No one is talking about getting KG anymore either, most that I talk to would rather keep bynum, me included.

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    Tim Duncan probably does not play all-out every night like he did earlier in his career. He is content to let Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili do much of the heavy lifting.

    He does raise his game in the playoffs. He will again.

    The team as a whole does not show the energy and fire of past Spurs teams. Part of that is because the regular season does not mean a whole lot to them. They have had home-court advantage and lost in the second round. They have been the #2 seed, and cast aside the #1 seed in the WCF with little fanfare.

    Given how much better they are on the road this year, HCA likely does not mean much to them. That said, their mediocrity at home, which ought to be their comfort zone, I think does speak to their complacency.

    The danger in trying to "flip the switch" is that things like team cohesion are developed over an entire season, not a few weeks in April and May.

    And while their lackadaisical at ude contributes to their underwhelming performance this year, the fact remains that aside from the Big 3, this team is composed of aging role players who are nearly totally spent, and marginal NBA talent which only looks competent because of the system. Their lack of athleticism, lack of rebounding, and unexceptional interior defense preclude their reaching an elite level. These are structural problems with the roster unrelated to their effort and focus night in and night out.

    So perhaps their lackadaisical at ude stems in part because deep down they know they aren't truly good enough to win it all.

    And perhaps the inattention to what have been obvious roster needs for a couple of years now betrays that team management no longer has that full commitment to winning. If leadership is not committed, then neither will the team be.

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    Tim Duncan's been on a decline for 4 years now. He'll hang two more championship banners and people will be saying he's on the decline.

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    Not everybody, just some of those who have been in the league for along time and playing in the post will wear you out quicker than those who do not play the post.
    That's an interesting opinion - how many 40 year old post players have you seen recently, and how many 40 year old perimeter guys

    Post Players - Kevin Willis, Karl Malone, Motumbo...

    Perimeter Players - ???

    Evidence suggests that post players last much longer than perimeter guys...

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    That's an interesting opinion - how many 40 year old post players have you seen recently, and how many 40 year old perimeter guys

    Post Players - Kevin Willis, Karl Malone, Motumbo...

    Perimeter Players - ???

    Evidence suggests that post players last much longer than perimeter guys...
    That's due to the fact that there arn't as many post players in general. There's always alot of good new perimeter players.

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    Tim Duncan's been on a decline for 4 years now. He'll hang two more championship banners and people will be saying he's on the decline.
    Duncan is in decline. Please clean your Spurs homer glasses.

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