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    NBAdraft.net profile has this kid's comparison as Tim Duncan and goes into detail about his "calm" demeanor on the court. How does this kid go from "Tim Duncan" to being almost out of the league in 4 or 5 years???

    IMO he needs to get his personal life on track, then pursue basketball again....too bad someone will avoid his problems and pay him money once he's cut.

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    I still remember the day Vescey went on TNT and said the Spurs were going to trade David Robinson to the Wizards to get the #1 pick in the 2001 draft to select Eddie Griffen.
    Sounds like Vescey had been partying with Eddie.

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    Beggars can't be choosers. Eddie is the kind of player we need. I'd give him a chance.

    One chance.

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    Beggars can't be choosers. Eddie is the kind of player we need. I'd give him a chance.

    One chance.
    He's had three already. Houston, NJ for a cup of coffee, and Minnesota. Someone will foolishly give him a chance, but it won't be SA. His skillset is a fit, but he has a hornets nest of drug and personality problems.

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    Hey, if we're never going to use Eric Williams, what would it hurt?

    Sign him for the minimum. If he screws up, he's gone. It would be worth the risk. I don't mind head cases much if we aren't paying them tens of millions of dollars.

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    Hey, if we're never going to use Eric Williams, what would it hurt?

    Sign him for the minimum. If he screws up, he's gone. It would be worth the risk. I don't mind head cases much if we aren't paying them tens of millions of dollars.
    I think the worst thing that could happen to Eddie Griffin is playoff success. I think he needs to get his together by sitting out the rest of the year, and start fresh next year in someone's training camp. His situation seriously has the smell of Roy Tarpley.

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    Beggars can't be choosers. Eddie is the kind of player we need. I'd give him a chance.

    One chance.

    We need peanuthead cancers?

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    We need youth and athleticism in our frontcourt. If there is any chance of resurrecting a talented 24-year old's career, I would prefer the Spurs be the team to do it.

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    We need youth and athleticism in our frontcourt. If there is any chance of resurrecting a talented 24-year old's career, I would prefer the Spurs be the team to do it.
    Pop's not going to bring some majorly troubled kid in and plug him into a large role in the rotation, which would be the only way he could help. , James White has NO troubles, and can't get into uniform.

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    It is funny, isn't it, Lanier?

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    James White isn't that good, that's why he doesn't play.

    I'm sure Pop doesnn't want to take on Eddie; I'm talking about what I would do. Obviously it's not up to me, but if you sign Eddie to a deal with a second-year option and he works out, all the sudden you're a ing genius with a productive 25-year old athletic PF who can shoot the three and block shots. If he doesn't, it's going to be his fault and it only cost you a guy you weren't going to play anyway -- what's the downside?

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    I'm sure Pop doesnn't want to take on Eddie; I'm talking about what I would do. Obviously it's not up to me, but if you sign Eddie to a deal with a second-year option and he works out, all the sudden you're a ing genius with a productive 25-year old athletic PF who can shoot the three and block shots. If he doesn't, it's going to be his fault and it only cost you a guy you weren't going to play anyway -- what's the downside?
    Agreed, but the guy has serious problems and I don't think bringing him in, fixes right away, or even in time.

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    Stephen Jackson is easily controlled. Hes influenced by his surroundings.

    Playing under Jermaine O'Neal and Ron Artest were his big downfalls.


    Bring him back under the guidance of Pop and Duncan, and he flourishes like he did in 03.

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    Stephen Jackson is easily controlled. Hes influenced by his surroundings.

    Playing under Jermaine O'Neal and Ron Artest were his big downfalls.


    Bring him back under the guidance of Pop and Duncan, and he flourishes like he did in 03.
    anyone who went into the stands flailing and swinging like that is not easily controlled. he was the worst of the bunch, and i don't think it had anything to do with artest, and i don't know why you pulled j. o'neal into that. neither one of them was around when he started shooting into the air outside a strip club.

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    It's just odd to say it will definitely happen with Jack and that's worth a $30 million gamble over three and a half seasons and definitely won't with Griffin and that's not worth a $300,000 gamble over half a season.

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    Because Jackson is a proven playoff performer.

    NOT Griffin.

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    he was the worst of the bunch, and i don't think it had anything to do with artest, and i don't know why you pulled j. o'neal into that
    Because he was the captain of the team, ala a Tim Duncan.

    His behaviour in Indy had alot to do with artest, O'Neal, and the horrible lack of discipline by Carlisle.

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    It's just odd to say it will definitely happen with Jack and that's worth a $30 million gamble over three and a half seasons and definitely won't with Griffin and that's not worth a $300,000 gamble over half a season.
    Exactly the way I see it. The Spurs are veteran to the point that a young kid coming in and messing up won't cause the team to split and fall apart. If the kid screws up, cut him. If he fills a role and succeeds, you have made a damn good decision. I don't see the downside here.

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    Because Jackson is a proven playoff performer.

    NOT Griffin.
    When was Griffin on a winning team in the playoffs?

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    It's just odd to say it will definitely happen with Jack and that's worth a $30 million gamble over three and a half seasons and definitely won't with Griffin and that's not worth a $300,000 gamble over half a season.
    I highly doubt SA trades for Jack and takes on that salary. The only way I see him ever coming back is if he is bought out, and completely free from legal troubles after his Wild West escapade shoot'em'up.

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    I highly doubt SA trades for Jack and takes on that salary. The only way I see him ever coming back is if he is bought out, and completely free from legal troubles after his Wild West escapade shoot'em'up.
    I think he's using that argument to show why taking a chance on Griffin is a much better investment than taking a chance on SJax. That's the way I see it.

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    There just aren't alot of players with his skill set available for nothing in return

    Buy low.

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    I think he's using that argument to show why taking a chance on Griffin is a much better investment than taking a chance on SJax. That's the way I see it.
    Yeah, except they're NEVER taking on that $30M, EVER, so the argument is a straw man. Jack would have to be bought out to come back here, and that would put the cost to the Spurs on par with the cost for Griffin.

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