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    Props to the Mavs for beating the Heat when it counts.

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    There is no reason why Duncan can't dominate Dirk on the post as Dirk dominates playing small ball. The center factor (see Shaq) is that you have to either double team or play big big on him. Duncan has to be that "center" to force their style of play, offensively and/or defensively. Who does he guard between Amare (5) and Marion (4) when they play the Suns.
    Marion? TD can't guard him lol. Best bet is probably Diaw. However I must warn you...AMARE LOOMS...be afraid...be very afraid

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    Spurs and Mav fans talk a lot of , but they know deep down they want no part of the KINGS!

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    There is no reason why Duncan can't dominate Dirk on the post as Dirk dominates playing small ball. The center factor (see Shaq) is that you have to either double team or play big big on him. Duncan has to be that "center" to force their style of play, offensively and/or defensively. Who does he guard between Amare (5) and Marion (4) when they play the Suns.
    At this point in their careers, Dirk is better than Tim.

    The Mavs and the Suns are better than the Spurs in their rotation through six or seven players.

    The Spurs are simply the 3rd best team in the West and maybe 4th through 6th overall. Get used to it.

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    At this point in their careers, Dirk is better than Tim.

    The Mavs and the Suns are better than the Spurs in their rotation through six or seven players.

    The Spurs are simply the 3rd best team in the West and maybe 4th through 6th overall. Get used to it.
    Since when did half-a-season define a player's career. I mean COME ON....Dirk is playing VERY WELL...But, it's only been for half of the season....Timmy has been playing very quietly. Give him some time....Especially considering he is a 2-time MVP, 3-time Finals MVP....AT THIS MOMENT, I don't think Dirk can make claim.. I will say it now, so mark it down. Once the roadtrip is said and done, that is when our season will truely begin. People should be excited for this roadtrip....This will be a true test for the Spurs...It's the time when we come TOGETHER....We haven't been playing well together, so hopefully this roadtrip will do the trick.

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    Difference between Dallas and SA - one word... Bench. How in the SA has only managed to lose 13 games this season so far with that horrible bench is beyond me. I think the starting 5 has done a pretty good job considering the bench is so weak. Stronger bench production = championship contention.

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    Spurs and Mav fans talk a lot of , but they know deep down they want no part of the KINGS!

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    The earlier post about someone knocking them off of their high horse, has merit, it would have worked in the past, but as time goes on, the team is taking on more and more of Avery's "playing style"

    They have become more and more scrappy .... I don't think the "pop in the mouth" will work anymore.

    The signing of George has made the Mavs "small ball" far more effective then it was last year against teams with strong PF's. He gave the Mavs another player that plays a two way game at 6-7 to 6-9. When we go small now, Dirk doesn't have to guard Duncan, George will do that.

    Those here that discarded the George signing as worthless were dead wrong.

    With the Spurs. The bench is the issue. I don't think that the team can take Bowen off the floor and you get the same production from you centers as the Mavs (Mavs group is better on defense)

    The Spurs just are not as deep. The Mavs have improved their defense to the point of being close to the Spurs .. close enough to negate that advantage. With only the three pouring in points, the Mavs would still win a match-up of the two ... They have more shooters.

    If Finley and Barry could become the players that they were, the Spurs would be right back on top, without them two scoring, the Spurs simply cannot keep up with the other two teams at the top.

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    The earlier post about someone knocking them off of their high horse, has merit, it would have worked in the past, but as time goes on, the team is taking on more and more of Avery's "playing style"

    They have become more and more scrappy .... I don't think the "pop in the mouth" will work anymore.

    The signing of George has made the Mavs "small ball" far more effective then it was last year against teams with strong PF's. He gave the Mavs another player that plays a two way game at 6-7 to 6-9. When we go small now, Dirk doesn't have to guard Duncan, George will do that.

    Those here that discarded the George signing as worthless were dead wrong.

    With the Spurs. The bench is the issue. I don't think that the team can take Bowen off the floor and you get the same production from you centers as the Mavs (Mavs group is better on defense)

    The Spurs just are not as deep. The Mavs have improved their defense to the point of being close to the Spurs .. close enough to negate that advantage. With only the three pouring in points, the Mavs would still win a match-up of the two ... They have more shooters.

    If Finley and Barry could become the players that they were, the Spurs would be right back on top, without them two scoring, the Spurs simply cannot keep up with the other two teams at the top.
    I agree with your take. I also acknowledge that the mavs have been winning down the stretch quite consistently this year. The Spurs have played great for 46.5 minutes of their 2 losses to the mavs. It's been that last 1:30 that has been their achilles heal..
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    There is more than just 1 reason.

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    People should be excited for this roadtrip....This will be a true test for the Spurs...It's the time when we come TOGETHER....We haven't been playing well together, so hopefully this roadtrip will do the trick.
    The first week there's a day game at the Lakers and then Utah and Phoenix on back-to-back nights. Either it will be a glorious week for Spurs fans or a week at the end of which fans will call even more loudly for a trade.

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    The first week there's a day game at the Lakers and then Utah and Phoenix on back-to-back nights. Either it will be a glorious week for Spurs fans or a week at the end of which fans will call even more loudly for a trade.
    I bet the Spurs go 2-1 in that 3 game stretch.

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    I bet the Spurs go 2-1 in that 3 game stretch.
    Question- if the Spurs beat the Lakers and Utah but lose to the Suns- won't it just confirm what people already think. They are 3rd in the West.

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    Question- if the Spurs beat the Lakers and Utah but lose to the Suns- won't it just confirm what people already think. They are 3rd in the West.
    I suppose so, but there's still half of the regular season to go. While I don't see the Spurs catching the Mavs or Suns in the standings, I certainly can see them improving to the point that they have as good a chance as anybody come playoff time. One thing to remember & fear about the Spurs is they know what it takes and couple of the guys (Finley & Barry) that aren't playing as well they probably could only have to be better for a few weeks in the playoffs.

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    How about an outside opinion of the three teams from a former Spur player, Mario Elie.

    He was on radio show in Houston the other day and said the Mavs and Suns had better players in their first six players. He said the Suns had the best six players in the league.

    When the playoffs come and playing rosters get shorter, these teams are gonna be damn hard to beat with what we have. Can we? Sure, with a few breaks and great play by everyone, but that's the case in every playoff series to the championship.

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    They make all of the plays in crunch time. There have been plenty of times this year where Dallas was down in the 4th and just made all of the right plays to win it.

    The Spurs on the other hand are an awful comeback team this year and are more used to blowing leads than climbing back from deficits.

    That right now is the major difference between these two teams imo.
    If i am a Mav fan right now i am shutting up you guys sucked ass yesterday against the Heat without Shaq. Wade by himself still almost beat the Mavs. They need to prove it come postseason i could care less if they win 65 games or whatever do it when it matters.

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    They make all of the plays in crunch time. There have been plenty of times this year where Dallas was down in the 4th and just made all of the right plays to win it.

    The Spurs on the other hand are an awful comeback team this year and are more used to blowing leads than climbing back from deficits.

    That right now is the major difference between these two teams imo.
    Other way around. They don't really try until they're down 20 in the fourth, then they finally decide to show up and it's usually not enough.

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    You mean Avery is POP?
    Does that make Nellie Bob Hill

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    If i am a Mav fan right now i am shutting up you guys sucked ass yesterday against the Heat without Shaq. Wade by himself still almost beat the Mavs. They need to prove it come postseason i could care less if they win 65 games or whatever do it when it matters.

    That's why your not a Mavs fan. We don't care by how many, or what the cir stances of the win are, only that it was a win.

    The Mavs didn't look at this a "revenge" game, all it was was a road win against the reining NBA champs. It will mean as much as a road win in Boston at the end of the regular season.

    You don't get revenge for a playoff loss in January, you get revenge, if possible, in the playoffs. Now it looks right now that the Mavs and Heat will not meet again in the playoffs ... That's too bad, it means that we will have to take out our frustration on whoever the Eastern Champ is.

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    If i am a Mav fan right now i am shutting up you guys sucked ass yesterday against the Heat without Shaq. Wade by himself still almost beat the Mavs. They need to prove it come postseason i could care less if they win 65 games or whatever do it when it matters.
    Ya, Mavs fans with their best record in the NBA and their 7 game winning streak should definitely be keeping their mouths shut at this point.

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    Give them a break. It's hard to be humble about the regular season if you've never won anything of note outside of it.

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    7 game win streak? Time to hang a banner.

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    7 game win streak? Time to hang a banner.
    Don't believe anyone said that. Simply countering the claim that the Mavs 6 point win on the road over Miami is something to be ashamed of somehow.

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    They make all of the plays in crunch time. There have been plenty of times this year where Dallas was down in the 4th and just made all of the right plays to win it.

    The Spurs on the other hand are an awful comeback team this year and are more used to blowing leads than climbing back from deficits.

    That right now is the major difference between these two teams imo.
    This was clearly evident (once again) by the way they "sucked ass" against the pitifiul Celtics. What makes this worse the Celtics were without a couple of their top players including Paul Pierce and Wally Sczerbiak.

    In addition to lacking a pedestrian amount of athleticism and scoring prowess for this "new age" NBA, this team also lacks a certain amount of mental toughness needed in close games. This is going to bite them in the ass during the playoffs - just like it's bit them in the ass during several of these regular season games.

    They're not going to suddenly develop that this year. In no way does this criticism mean that I'm not a Spurs fan. On the contrary. It's simply a statement of fact.

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    Don't believe anyone said that. Simply countering the claim that the Mavs 6 point win on the road over Miami is something to be ashamed of somehow.

    It is not to be ashamed of but it is lightyears from being impressive. All it did is made people think with Shaq back they are going to beat you in a 7 game series again.

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