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That's what Parker has said in his radio show just before the Boston game. Pop have asked to pass more to Finley and Barry in the Sixers game because Philly wasn't a big threat.
Hmmm, funny, I seem to remember an article where Pop said that this other PG should shoot....Pop told the wrong PG to stop shooting so much
Of course things could have changed since that time.
That's what Parker has said in his radio show just before the Boston game. Pop have asked to pass more to Finley and Barry in the Sixers game because Philly wasn't a big threat.
Finally I hear something that makes sence this year from Pop!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks god,he wasnŽt out of his mind
I guess,we are gonna start watching some ball movement and sharing from now on.!!!!!!GO SPURS GO
This is a joke
Finley can't score, TP can and what happen TP shoots less to Finley shoot more
I think Pop finally opened my email... anyway it is apparent that Fin & Barry need more shots to find a rythm. I am not sure how many shots either of these guys average but in their primes they were bulk shot guys. It seems like they need more shots to get going but of course if they do get more and make the same avg we move on to plan c. Let's be honest the only chance we have this year is if these guys start knocking shots down.
NO told you so from me because in the end I just want to win.
Finally Pop did make a good decision.Because fin and barry have started to get stiff.
And with Tony the distributor,the team is better.But i hope tony don't forget his agressivness and scoring talent when the need come
Tony is a better scorer than distributor. It will interesting to see how this pans out- but I disagree about one thing. If Tony shoots less, Manu need to touch the ball more- not Finley.
I guess there's some logic to the theory, but there are going to be some growing pains. Hope it works.
The problem is that TP scores 53% and bulk of his scoring in the first two or three quarters, and NOT when the game is on the line in the 4th quarter.
Also nowhere in the Pop quote did he instruct TP to shoot less AND pass it instead to Barry and Finley! Instead it was TP who was perhaps using Barry and Finley as examples of guys that need more touches/shots to get them in the groove but this is not what Pop necessarily said. He would never give such a rigid stupid instruction to TP like "force feed more shots to Barry/Finley". More likely, Pop said something like this...."let's get more players involved, more passing, and create more movements/motion offense in order to utilize your penetration/speed and get others easy open shots -- be it Manu, Duncan, Bowen, Barry, Finley, Horry, etc. I believe that Pop wants TP to be more of a PG rather than a SG because as I have said million times, Spurs offence is so predictable and limited by lack of a probing, passing PG who gives his teammates open shots or layups on a consistent basis.
One of the reasons why Finley, Horry, etc. have struggled (Beno is a different case -- he has lost his confidence -- see his shot trajectory...very flat and his follow through motion is very poor, very rigid, almost afraid to miss) because none of these guys can CREATE THEIR OWN SHOTS anymore due to their lack of speed/atheleticism that they once possessed. Finley, Horry and even Barry needs that extra split second and extra spacing to get their legs squared away in order to shoot with any consistency. If TP plays more of a PG role and uses his ability to penetrate to not necessarily take it all the way to the hoop and score but to dish it off at the last second or to probe the defence and takes what they give him so that he uses his athleticism to give his teammates (not just Barry and Finley obviously!!) good open looks or easy access to the lane/hoop for layups, dunks, etc., then that will make TP MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE and more importantly, make all his teammates better, especially the vets that can no longer create their own scoring opportunities.
Also this move will hopefully conserve TP's energy so that in fact he does more of his scoring in the CRUNCH TIME (4th qtr) rather than supposedly burning himself out in the first 3 quarters as some have suggested (i still don't buy this however...i think he is a very fit, young player and only plays 35 minutes -- less than Nash! -- and the real reason why TP dissappears is due to opposing defense closing off the driving lane, TP's lack of jumpshots and his lack of confidence that he can score when the game gets intense.
Anyway, TP MUST learn to be more of a PG if we are going to have any chance to beat Dallas or Phoenix. One dimensional, predictable offence that strictly relies on TP driving to the hoop or dumping it into TD in the post ain't going to work when the game gets intense and defence starts to clamp down against the Spurs in the 4th quarter. They have to have EVERYONE involved so that the opposing team can't just focus on 2 players (Manu, Tim) in the 4th quarter.
Tony, before you worry about learning how to hit 3 pointers or even jump shots, learn to play more like Nash, Kidd, Billups and get EVERYONE more involved.
Eventually heŽll(manu) find his rythm,but looks like Finley needs like 1.000 shots to get going this year.I think thats why he just refered to fin and barry
Not until we get the headline: "Pop Asks Parker to Pass More to Ginobili"
Although everyone (won't name names, you know who you are) who called Tony a selfish ballhog have just been outed as complete morons.
Last edited by ShoogarBear; 01-23-2007 at 10:14 AM. Reason: correct the verb
Pop spends too much time babying these guys....I say let the chips fall where they may...if they can't produce .......click, next....go to the next guy! These guys are professionals they don't need help from pop or tony to get it up! Either show up or sit down...cept' for Manu ......even with an off night he still plays with passion....that's all we ask...be confident and play with a purpose! And Timmy is GOD so he's allowed to just hang out! errrr one else! PLAY BALL!
I thought that had already been self-evident.
Damn,You lossing your swetness shoogar!
Chill out.
Well,I think pop reads our threads instead of yours
Stupid move.
What other team tells their all star guard, to shoot less.
Unreal.
Actually, I think you were correcter [sic] the first time.... I believe it should read...Last edited by ShoogarBear : Today at 09:14 AM. Reason: correct the verb
Although everyone (won't name names, you know who you are) who called Tony a selfish ballhog has just been outed as a complete moron.
get off that pipe!
Please stop. You're making too much sense and this forum just doesn't like that.
TP is following orders. No new news here. Pop asked him to score, he did. Pop asks him to pass more and he's doing that. What Pop tells TP to do, he does. Those who criticize TP's role need to direct that anger at Pop since he's calling the shots and defining roles on this team.
Kobe? Michael Jordan? Any of those guys ring a bell? Parker isn't the first star player to be asked to shoot less for the good of the team.
Just when you thought this season couldn't suck any worse.
Go back and watch last two games...Ball moved incredibly well against Philly, everyone successful, and it was a snoozer. Go back to last night in Boston. Go take a look at "how" the lead disinigrated....Tony ran up and down the floor and didn't give the ball to anyone. Its pretty simple really.
Tony has never been asked to shoot 20 a game this year.
The issue is Tony "setting guys up" to get easier shots. The way he plays, guys don't get open looks a la Nash. Guys still have to creat there own shots. What Pop wants Tony to do is look to get guys like Finley and Barry and Manu open looks so they don't have to create everthing themselves.
Granted Barry does pass up shots here and there...But the fact is, the guy is shooting 50% from the 3pt line, but will literally go stretches where he doesn't even touch the ball for 3-5 minutes....AND THATS NOT POPS GAME PLAN. Remember when Manu came back from his injury and the Spurs were passing the ball like it was on fire? Tony had like 15 assists, Manu was driving and dishing like no other. They crushed teams. Its the same thing.
2nd, hopefully with Tony getting Finley a few touches and Open looks where Finley doesn't have to create his own jump shot, or drive, he can get a few standing wide open looks, and knock a few J's down. Then hopefully his shooting % and confidence will creep back up for the playoffs.
The way it looks now, this is the team we are going to have in the playoffs. (Although RC and Presti did go on this last road trip) Tony shooting 20 times a game is not going to get them to the Finals. Whether anyone likes it or not, Barry / Finley are going to have to be involved unless there is some major move.
Tony will be a poor man's Marbury until he makes everyone around him better. Pop is asking him to do that. When the people around him are better because of him getting them easier shots....Tony will be in the All Star game every single year.
I don't know if Tony purposely took less shots on vs. Philly. The Spurs clicked from the get go and scored with ease, knocking down threes left and right. It wasn't even necessary for Tony and Manu to play that night. Manu forced a few too many shots, but still only took 12. The Sixers were completely bending over for the Spurs and Tony really didn't have to shoot when Brent could have scored 100 on the Sixers.
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