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    Well done Mr. President. Time to play ball.

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    He almost accidentally grabbed Madame Speaker's hooter there at the end...wow! How many time would we have seen that screen capture over the next two years?

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    Is it just me or does Hillary think she is God?

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    Is it just me or does Hillary think she is God?
    It's not you.

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    I think Bush wants some of that Pelosi.

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    Hillary always looks like a .

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    I see Saddam's ghost is hanging around, mean as ever.

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    Did anyone see the shot of McCain either nodding off or texting in the middle of all that? Heh heh

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    Hillary always looks like a .
    STFU you non-tipping cheap ass non-working man supporting biatch!!

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    Rick Perry Sucks!! Chris Bell's Avatar
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    STFU you non-tipping cheap ass non-working man supporting biatch!!
    Hey baby, divorce that no good cheatin' husband of yours and let's get hitched. I'd be proud to be your First Man.

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    Is it just me or does Hillary think she is God?
    isn't she?

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    , bring on that $7500 deduction for single Americans for health care, which my company already pays for

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    , bring on that $7500 deduction for single Americans for health care, which my company already pays for
    Ah, but the fine print is that the amount they pay on your behalf becomes taxable income to you. So your net deduction prolly wouldn't be all that much.

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    How cute, they give a seperate Democratic Response in Spanish also.

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    Ah, but the fine print is that the amount they pay on your behalf becomes taxable income to you. So your net deduction prolly wouldn't be all that much.
    What I read was you only get taxed on what's over $15K.

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    None of dubya's is going to work or get approved.

    He has failed in Iraq. Iraq is now irredeemably lost.

    All dubya is doing now is trying delay withdrawal until after his term and to polish that pile of called his legacy by calling for stuff he didn't do when he had both houses of Congress with him. He knows he can't do this now with both houses, and a huge majority of Americans, against him.
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    None of dubya's is going to work or get approved.
    You're dumb.

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    What I read was you only get taxed on what's over $15K.
    What I read earlier today was (let's say) your company pays $5000 for health insurance. You are taxed on that $5000, but the $7500 (single person) deduction takes care of that (and then some).

    If your company pays $10K (again, single converage) then you would end up paying tax on the $2.5K excess over the $7.5K limit.

    An AP story says that there is a fear that young, healthy individuals would end up declining health insurance in order to maximize their deduction (e.g. no health insurance = $7500 deduction). Since the Demos won't let it through it's prolly a moot point.

    CNN.com explains it much better here.

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    Did anyone see the shot of McCain either nodding off or texting in the middle of all that? Heh heh

    I think they were all following along on with the copies of the speech that they recieved a head of time. Those were things that W. spent about fifteen minutes signing when he was trying to leave.

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    I didnt watch one friggin second of the STOU. What on God's green earth could the most inept public-speaking President ever say or accomlpish? Nothing excpt rhetoric, pandering and cheap policy to look as though he cares about the dissenting opinion.

    What a complete waste of time.

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    , The State of The Union in HD. Nice. Meh.

    Did Bush show signs of razor-burn?

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    Off the Rails: Big Oil, Big Brother Win Big in the State of the Union

    Published by Greg Palast January 24th, 2007 in Articles

    by Greg Palast
    Tuesday, 23 January, 2006

    There was that tongue again. When the President lies he’s got this weird nervous tick: He sticks the tip of his tongue out between his lips. Like a little boy who knows he’s fibbing. Like a snake licking a rat.

    In his State of the Union tonight the President did his tongue thing 124 times — my kids kept count.

    But it wasn’t all rat-licking lies.

    Most pundits concentrated on Iraq and wacky health insurance stuff. But that’s just bubbles and blather. The real agenda is in the small stuff. The little razors in the policy apple, the nasty little pieces of policy shrapnel that whiz by between the appearances of the Presidential tongue.

    First, there was the announcement the regime will, “give employers the tools to verify the legal status of their workers.” In case you missed that one, the President is talking about creating a federal citizen profile database.

    There’s a problem with that idea. It’s against the law. The law in question is the United States Cons ution. The Founding Fathers thought the government had no right to keep track on a citizen unless there is evidence they have committed, or planned to commit, a crime.

    But the Founding Fathers didn’t imagine there were millions and billions of dollars to be made by private contractors ready to perform this KGB operation for the Department of Homeland Security, tracking each and every one of us to keep tabs on our “status.”

    These work databases will tie into “voter verification” databases required by the Help America Vote Act. And these will tie to the databases on citizenship and so on.

    Will Big Brother abuse these snoop lists? The biggest purveyor of such hit lists is Choice Point, Inc. – those characters who, before the 2000 election, helped Jeb Bush purge innocent voters as “felons” from Florida voter rolls. Will they abuse the new super-lists? Does Cheney shoot in the woods?

    There were several other little IEDs (improvised execrable policy devices) planted in the State of the Union. Did you catch the one about doubling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? If you’re unfamiliar with the SPR, it is supposed to be the stash of oil we keep in case the price of crude gets too high.

    Well, the price of oil has been horribly high but Cheney, the official who sits on the Reserve’s spigots, has refused to release the oil into the market.

    Instead of unleashing the Reserve and busting Big Oil’s price gouging Bush will double the Reserve, which will require buying three-quarters of a billion barrels of oil. This is a nice $40 billion pay-out to Big Oil from the US Treasury. Compare this to the President’s health insurance plan which will be “revenue neutral” — that is, have a net investment of zero.

    But the $40 billion in loot the oilmen will get from us taxpayers for doubling the Reserve is nothing compared to the boost in the worldwide price of crude caused by this massive, mad purchase. While the Congressional audience didn’t even bother polite applause for the reserve purchase plan, there’s no doubt they were whooping it up in Saudi Arabia. Clearly, the state of the Saudi-Bush union is still pretty good.

    But why end on a cynical note? I must admit I was moved by the President’s praise of Wesley Autrey, a New Yorker who, last month, threw himself on top of a man who had fallen on subway tracks — and held him between the track rails as the train passed over them.

    While the President properly acknowledged Autrey’s courage in saving the man who fell on the subway tracks, Mr. Bush still did not explain why Cheney pushed the man in the first place.

    Greg Palast is the author of the New York Times bestseller: Armed Madhouse: Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War. The subscribe to Palast’s investigative reports, go to www.GregPalast.com

    http://www.gregpalast.com/off-the-ra...-of-the-union/

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    Does anybody dispute the citizenship database and the windfall profits to oilcos by doubling the SPR?

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    boutons, you're dumb.

    Instead of unleashing the Reserve and busting Big Oil’s price gouging Bush will double the Reserve, which will require buying three-quarters of a billion barrels of oil. This is a nice $40 billion pay-out to Big Oil from the US Treasury. Compare this to the President’s health insurance plan which will be “revenue neutral” — that is, have a net investment of zero.

    But the $40 billion in loot the oilmen will get from us taxpayers for doubling the Reserve is nothing compared to the boost in the worldwide price of crude caused by this massive, mad purchase.
    The Strategic Petroleum Reserve was never intended to be a price control at the pumps. It was intended to be an emergency reserve in a time of war.

    What the are people ing about gas prices for anyway? I paid $1.90 to gas up last week.

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    What the are people ing about gas prices for anyway? I paid $1.90 to gas up last week.
    You think Croutons actually needs a reason to ?

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