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    ^ holy crap! his wife looks like a dude in that pic
    ok ok, another one:


    (guess you just started the contest)

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    The more likely option to go with 8 players has a big flaw....

    One backup PG - Which one!?! They both suck, which is why a trade must be made!

    The other two back ups are easily solved in Robert Horry and Brent Barry. For the other starter, rotate between Fabs and Kiko based on the opposing team's personnel. This may not work for the season but could definitely be employed in the playoffs.

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    Does anyone else think the Spurs keep sharing time between Brent and Finley because Brent may get traded and they will have to rely on Finley?

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    Does anyone else think the Spurs keep sharing time between Brent and Finley because Brent may get traded and they will have to rely on Finley?
    If Barry gets traded it better damn well be in a package to get a player of greater value so that the Spurs won't HAVE to rely on Finley.

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    If Barry gets traded it better damn well be in a package to get a player of greater value so that the Spurs won't HAVE to rely on Finley.
    But what if Brent is traded to get an expiring contract?

    Now entering the game for Manu Ginobili- expiring contract!

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    But what if Brent is traded to get an expiring contract?

    Now entering the game for Manu Ginobili- expiring contract!
    Expiring contract > Michael Finley

    Just kidding...not really

    Honestly, as highly as the Spurs FO values Barry (questioning giving him up for Maggette in the beginning), I doubt they get rid of him to dump salary because it has no financial gain (they're still over the cap if they do the deal).

    The only case I see is if that expiring contract also holds value for the Spurs' critical need areas. For instance, if it took Brent Barry to get Brevin Knight for the Spurs backup PG need, I could see that.

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    Spurs bench has been crappy at PG/SG/SF this year. I've found it quite versatile at PF/C, there aren't great names except Duncan but players know their roles and all bring something different.

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    Honestly, I've got so much stuff going on this year that I have rarely even pondered the present state of the Spurs. But I do believe that they'll put a run together eventually and I do believe they'll be playoff ready...I hope.

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    The more likely option to go with 8 players has a big flaw....

    One backup PG - Which one!?! They both suck, which is why a trade must be made!

    The other two back ups are easily solved in Robert Horry and Brent Barry. For the other starter, rotate between Fabs and Kiko based on the opposing team's personnel. This may not work for the season but could definitely be employed in the playoffs.

    barry can play the point, so can ginobili. both are better options than udrih. and parker can 40 minutes a game easily (at least in the playoffs).

    and once Bonner gets back, Horry should be planted firmly on the bench.

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    yeah popo needs to get parkers young ass out there and play way more minutes. and play beno as least amount possible

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    yeah popo needs to get parkers young ass out there and play way more minutes. and play beno as least amount possible

    I think his limiting minutes of the starters seriously hurts this team in overtime situations. Our guys consistently run out of gas...remember; Spurs didn't lose to Dallas's on Manu's screw-up; they had a whole overtime to make up for that; but were completely out of gas.

    Pop needs to keep the starters in more; NO other team limits as much as Spurs..could also help to contain the nightly meltdown at the end of the 3rd; beginning of 4th quarters.

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    Spurs bench has been crappy at PG/SG/SF this year. I've found it quite versatile at PF/C, there aren't great names except Duncan but players know their roles and all bring something different.
    Actually this is the 2nd straight year of the crappy play from these positions.

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    I think his limiting minutes of the starters seriously hurts this team in overtime situations. Our guys consistently run out of gas...remember; Spurs didn't lose to Dallas's on Manu's screw-up; they had a whole overtime to make up for that; but were completely out of gas.

    Pop needs to keep the starters in more; NO other team limits as much as Spurs..could also help to contain the nightly meltdown at the end of the 3rd; beginning of 4th quarters.


    Wait, wait....are you saying the Spurs should play their starters MORE in order for them to be LESS tired as the game wears on? This simply defies logic, but I have to make sure that's what you're saying...

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    I thought all offseason that Atkins was someone the Spurs needed to bring in, but to late on that. A Melvin Ely player would help, as would a Jackie Butler that didnt resemble Oliver Miller. My only question is with James Whites good play on the Toros, why this guy couldnt get any minutes with our old sf and sg positions.

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    barry can play the point, so can ginobili. both are better options than udrih. and parker can 40 minutes a game easily (at least in the playoffs).

    and once Bonner gets back, Horry should be planted firmly on the bench.
    They can bring the ball up the court and initiate the offense, but neither are quick enough on defense to guard opposing point guards and the bottom line is that would require someone taking the position those two would normally occupy. How does your team look, 1-5, with either Barry or Manu running the point?

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    Expiring contract > Michael Finley

    Just kidding...not really

    Honestly, as highly as the Spurs FO values Barry (questioning giving him up for Maggette in the beginning), I doubt they get rid of him to dump salary because it has no financial gain (they're still over the cap if they do the deal).

    The only case I see is if that expiring contract also holds value for the Spurs' critical need areas. For instance, if it took Brent Barry to get Brevin Knight for the Spurs backup PG need, I could see that.
    Kind of what I really meant- if people want a trade for a PG, I think it will require a trade of Barry and that means more Finley!

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    And what happened to Jay Williams in the D league, was he that bad? He cant be worse than Beno

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    Atkins isn't a bad option, but he's on an affordable contract and plays significant minutes as backup to the oft-injured Damon Stoudamire, who's on a much fatter, long-term contract. If Memphis wants to divulge itself of anyone I'm betting it'd be Stoudamire, not Atkins. He'd be good though.

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    u never know, washington and l.a. didnt keep atkins even though he was doing good for those ball clubs

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    And what happened to Jay Williams in the D league, was he that bad? He cant be worse than Beno
    good question

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    Atkins isn't a bad option, but he's on an affordable contract and plays significant minutes as backup to the oft-injured Damon Stoudamire, who's on a much fatter, long-term contract. If Memphis wants to divulge itself of anyone I'm betting it'd be Stoudamire, not Atkins. He'd be good though.
    But Memphis is the worst team in the league, usually teams like that with older vets are willing to trade those players for youth (Beno), or expiring contracts (Williams+second round pick). Wishfull thinking I suppose

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    jay williams wont be back in the league.

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    Kind of what I really meant- if people want a trade for a PG, I think it will require a trade of Barry and that means more Finley!
    I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that acquiring a new backup PG HAS to involve Barry. The fact remains that whomever the Spurs bring in to back up Tony, if indeed they do, will only play 12-15mpg, and though they may be "critical" minutes, it would be tough to justify giving up the production that Barry gives. Barry may be inconsistent, but IMO the Spurs would be better off hanging on to him unless they can add a consistent contributor to the lineup (a la Maggette).

    Deals are possible with Eric Williams' expiring contract as well. I'll say it again, Arroyo appears to be a good fit based on both teams' needs.

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    Nevermind, Jay Williams was waived due to injury, guess he is done, sad

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    But Memphis is the worst team in the league, usually teams like that with older vets are willing to trade those players for youth (Beno), or expiring contracts (Williams+second round pick). Wishfull thinking I suppose
    Agreed...it's not that "wishful", and if Gasol gets traded, I'd say it's much more likely because it indicates that Memphis would be in a rebuilding mode (plus they'd probably want a young PG back, seeing as how it's one of their key issues).

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