Hollinger and his 3 Spurs, 1 Maverick All-Stars

[nkdlunch]

if Pop was coaching that would be a guarantee. But in D'antoni will probably play him 40 minutes

[gregpschneid]

No way Manu deserves a all star selection, I love the guy, but its not one of his better years

without manu and the spurs are below 500.

[Nikos]

Hollinger's PER stat is a good one. It has its weaknesses especially for valuing defense, but its a great statistical tool to gauge how productive a player is statistically per minute.

Yeah Ginobili is overrated by PER a bit when you compare him to players like Arenas who carry the load for their team -- but it also demonstrates how efficient and productive Manu is when in the game.

Someone like Bowen is very underrated, because he certainly is not one of the worst players in the league in terms of value to a team. But offensively I guess you can make the claim that he is often a liability when not hitting his 3pt shot. But his defense does make him valuable to teams that need it and have enough offense around him.

Dirk and Wade are tops on the PER list. Not too bad. Some guys have off years, have horrible teamattes, or simply play too many minutes -- so they are underappreciated in terms of PER. But I find in general that the stat is a nice indicator of a players offensive production (and to some extent defense albeit very small).

Hollinger knows better than to simply judge players on his stat alone. He knows the limitations of his stat, but I doubt he has the time to really explain the weaknesses, so he probably gets to the point and wants to push his measuring tool over simple PPG, FG%, and team wins(which many people tend to factor most anyway).

[ponky]

he also has D Wade as MVP over everybody

[timvp]

The All-Star game should be cancelled if Josh Howard isn't named to the team.

[Kermit]

The All-Star game should be cancelled if Josh Howard isn't named to the team.

yeah, i agree. but if you listen to the heads, they seem to think that last night's game against the bulls ruined his all-star candidacy (which i think is utter bull ). he and shawn marion are two players who's exclusion from the game would be a travesty.

edit: i realize i just wrote udder. i must have cow teets on the brain.

[cheguevara]

good timing. Howard was 4 of 20 last night

[ShoogarBear]

The whole Mavs team sucked shooting last night. Howard at least was able to pick up his game in money time.

[FromWayDowntown]

Hollinger knows better than to simply judge players on his stat alone. He knows the limitations of his stat, but I doubt he has the time to really explain the weaknesses, so he probably gets to the point and wants to push his measuring tool over simple PPG, FG%, and team wins(which many people tend to factor most anyway).

Signed,
Jackie Butler

[dg7md]

We're the only team that's underrated and overrated at the exact same time.

[Nikos]

Signed,
Jackie Butler

Of course hes going to be biased by his measurement. Michael Redd was another guy who had a nice PER and didn't get huge minutes at first.

But you have to use context with this measurement. If a player is getting major rotational minutes and has a nice PER at a young stage of his NBA career, its usually a good sign. Someone with a nice PER who plays 10mpg is probably not a lock to be a great NBA player or anything. Just because Hollinger had good things to say about Butler doesn't make the measurement useless or ineffective.

[SequSpur]

without manu and the spurs are below 500.

this guy is smart. The Spurs blew the grizz out tonight while manu sat in a chair.