Besides the fact that Parker isn't 26, I really hate how people try to make the Spurs core seem old. They aren't. They should be in the midst of their prime right now.
Yeah it was hard to read it after that mistake, but I made it through it. But a lot of the Spurs players are old - Bowen/Horry/Barry/Fin - and you need (one of) those role players to step up in the postseason. We'll have to see if they have the legs.
. Don't you think Popovich is relieved that his attempts at moving Barry for J.R. Smith collapsed at the trading deadline last year? A 21-year-old like Smith is years away from being able to help a contender like San Antonio win games in May and June.
Some Spurs officials also think it will be difficult to find a more skilled backup point guard than Udrih
Even if it's funny, it's quite true. The market for PGs who are available, on a cheap contract and better than Vaughn is very thin (something like 5 players).
Beno is skilled, that's not the problem. The problem is he plays as if he needs to be on anti-depressants. An out of shape point guard with no confidence isn't exactly the blueprint for success in the NBA.
Barry/Beno plus picks to LA for Maggette.
Horry for Atkins.
I'd do it.
Did you read the article?
Looks like timvp could be on to something. With Maggette officially off the table, that probably takes Barry off the trade block since there aren't any other swingmen available that could come in and produce right away.
So unless the Spurs can find a point guard on an ending contract, this could be the team from here on out.
I actually read it wrong and thought the writer was calling the Medium 3 aged or aging when he was actualy pointing out their age and collective talent as a positive thing. I do agree that after those guys the Spurs have simply gotten too old. However, I'm thinking if the Spurs do meet up with Dallas, Finley is going to give everything he has so that is one positive. Horry and Bowen also have the experience which will be at least a factor in the Spurs favor. If Barry can shoot 50% on 3's the Spurs might be in good shape. I do prefer the Spurs in a down and out, underdog role to a highly favored goliath role - especially with the team they have.
I'm still waiting for the game I actually pull for the Spurs instead of the other team. I think almost the whole year this year I've been pulling for their opponents to win. Dallas, Houston, Lakers... to me the Spurs don't deserve to win and I hate when they win right now because they're not really trying so I can no longer go for them. I'd like to pull for the Spurs in the playoffs, but if Duncan's still playing like a beach I can't.
I mentioned yesterday that I think Mo Pete isn't going anywhere either. It was his agent doing most of the looking for a trade since he is in a contract year, but Mo is settling into his role off the bench and is turning into a guy who doesn't start but who finishes games. The fact that Toronto is winning now helps, too. They are 8-4 since Bosh came back from his injury, and 3 of those losses were close games with Dallas, Utah, and Phoenix.Looks like timvp could be on to something. With Maggette officially off the table, that probably takes Barry off the trade block since there aren't any other swingmen available that could come in and produce right away.
So unless the Spurs can find a point guard on an ending contract, this could be the team from here on out.
Right, and Pop never said the same thing prior to trading Malik, etc. This sounds like classic CIA. Let's just hope that he's still got the same M.O. that he has in the past for making deals in situations like this.
It sounds more like he feels that the trade speculation was distracting some of the guys, so you can't blame him for telling them no trades are going to happen to try to settle them down.
Are you on the Spurs payroll in the PR department? You should be. Quit defending Pop like you're his .
No one's ever said the core (TD, TP, MG) is old. The talk is about everyone surrounding those three on the court. Come on Kris...
The only thing that seems odd is that Pop never has done this before and there has been trade speculation every year for about 5 years since Malik hit the dog house. It leads me to believe that he actually does not expect a trade. Pop may be CIA with the media, but he is pretty honest with his players, and this information is coming from what he told them.
Problem is, they're only willing to take back contracts that end in 2008 at the latest. That kind of kills the value of an expiring contract, save for the team that is certain it doesn't want to keep a player who will become a free agent this summer (and get something of value for him - ie pick) or is willing to part with a player to get rid of the obligation for next season. Atkins falls in the former category.
In addition, they'll probably have to part with a pick to obtain anyone of value in a trade. So that's yet another young player who could've been brought into your system and developed into a role player. They've given up a few too many of those, which are quite valuable for a team like the Spurs that's had a problem landing near-star/star free agents. Plus those picks are locked into small salaries for 4 years.
Once you start making decisions for other than basketball reasons, you are shooting yourself in the foot.
Beno isn't good at anything.... But , they are paying him so they need to have a reason.
Correct. The Spurs have put together a relatively young three-headed monster better than any other trio of players in the league. That's the hard part of the championship equation.
What's frustrating is that the Spurs haven't been able to do the easier part the last couple of years -- filling in role players around that great core. Any team that has won the le (includiung the Spurs) has had to do that on a year to year basis. The Spurs have tried but haven't succeeded lately.
And it need not require trades. Stephen Jackson, Devin Brown, Mario Elie and many others were aquired for nothing. That's where the failure has occurred.
The curse of Slovenia. Kidding?
I would love Chucky Atkins for Beno. Like TIMVP stated, he does have skill, but for soem reason he isn't executing that skill during the games.
Bostjan was great for the NJN last night.
Arroyo, Duhon, Brevin Knight, Lue (not sure he is available) and Chucky Atkins are the only PGs available, quite cheap and better than Beno/Vaughn. Getting another backup PG won't be easy for Spurs given the few solutions available.
Saying Spurs should trade Beno for Atkins is easy but the reality is more complicate : it's not sure that Memphis will do it or is ready to trade Atkins or won't get a better offer from another team.
I remember when he owned Malone a couple of years ago. it was quite funny.
Atkins would be great. He is also a free agent after '07 season
Atkins works, yeah, because his contract expires this year. Don't know what it would take to get him.
I assume we'll look for a new backup point in the draft this year, perhaps with the Milwaukee 2nd rounder.
Manny
You beat me to the punch!
Straight up -- the SPURS have no trade bait! The Big 3 are out of the question!
I'm thinking your list is at least 1 short - Kevin Ollie in Philly. Anyone off older than 28 on that team is available - they are in complete rebuild. He's better than Beno statistically, and he's a veteran who doesn't have any kind of a bad rep. Compare Beno and Ollie
Beno
http://www.82games.com/0607/06SAS3A.HTM
Ollie
http://www.82games.com/0607/06PHI4A.HTM
Statistically, Ollie is a better shot (EFG%), a better passer, a better rebounder, and makes less TO's. He's a better PG than current Beno. (looking back to last year, Beno was much better than this year, but Ollie was still marginally better at passing, rebounding, and TO's. However, last year, Beno shot much better).
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