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    that luol deng kid would come in handy now......trade!

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    Bowen should be banned from putting the ball on the floor for more than two dribbles or any dribbles toward the basket. Teams are baiting him to drive now knowing he makes bad decisions and passes.

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    My problem with Bowen is that after all this time playing basketball, he has yet to develop any type of consistent dribble drive skills. He's better than he was in years past, but he's still devoid of a consistent mid-range game. It's either 3-pt shot or bust. This causes him to go long stretches without taking a shot. Can't have players on the court who can't or don't shoot.

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    Bowen haters are the bottom feeders of the Spurs internet universe.

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    Isn't every year the same? Spurs fans with low bb IQ asking why Bowen is on the court?

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    I hate Bowen's frequent left-handed layup drives to the basket though, that makes me cringe. He should stick to three pointers

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    Bowen is the greatest he should play all 48 minutes and POP and RC rock should be executives of the year every year!

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    Bowen made Kobe work tonight. He did a decent job on him ... not awesome but decent. The times when Kobe really got going were actually when Manu was guarding him.

    Anyway, I wouldn't even consider starting Finley or Barry over Bowen. The next person who starts over Bowen should be a young, defensive-minded SF. And that probably won't be for a while.
    letīs go after nocioni next year.....

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    you dont stop kobe. you merely hope to contain him. and bowens age makes it a tougher job for him than for others

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    31 points on 25 shots isn't exactly a scorching. It's all about how hard you make him work for his points. Kobe's going to get his. You just don't want him scoring his normal pts/FGA of like 1.4

    Now, TMac DID spank the ass the other night, going for 37 on 24 shots. That's outstanding.

    13 of 25 for 31pts is over 50%, which is above his FG% average.


    Like I said, I'd be happy if Bowen kept his man to below his average, pts or FG%.

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    13 of 25 for 31pts is over 50%, which is above his FG% average.


    Like I said, I'd be happy if Bowen kept his man to below his average, pts or FG%.
    If you watched the game, you'd know that Bowen held Kobe to about 15-16. The rest of his point weren't on Bowen.

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    Dumbass. You know nothing about the NBA. You don't shut down a premier scorer, ever. Bowen never has. He just makes them work their asses off, and tries not to send them to the line in the process.

    when he's letting his man score above his average (pts & FG%), then i wouldn't necessarily call that "making his man work for his pts". I'd call it an easy day at the office.

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    If you watched the game, you'd know that Bowen held Kobe to about 15-16. The rest of his point weren't on Bowen.

    So now I didn't watch the game??? Anyways. Bowen guarded Kobe partly in the 4th but in overtime mostly. I also watched Kobe not have to guard anybody for 3 quarters almost until Manu made him work in the 4th, which I believe took the energy out of Kobe's fire in the 4th.

    Kobe scored 31pts in the game. If he scored 15-16pts on Bowen, then obviously he scored the other half of his pts on the other guy(being Manu), which I guess could say that Bowen's defense really wasn't any better than Manu's in this game.

    No need for insults, Kori. You're a great person, just stay that way.

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    So now I didn't watch the game??? Anyways. Bowen guarded Kobe partly in the 4th but in overtime mostly. I also watched Kobe not have to guard anybody for 3 quarters almost until Manu made him work in the 4th, which I believe took the energy out of Kobe's fire in the 4th.

    Kobe scored 31pts in the game. If he scored 15-16pts on Bowen, then obviously he scored the other half of his pts on the other guy(being Manu), which I guess could say that Bowen's defense really wasn't any better than Manu's in this game.

    No need for insults, Kori. You're a great person, just stay that way.
    What insults? I made a simple statement.

    ... I guess could say that Bowen's defense really wasn't any better than Manu's in this game.
    Except when Manu was the primary defender on Kobe, he didn't miss. Kobe's field goal percentage when Bowen was guarding him was subpar.

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    In the 35 minutes that Bowen guarded Kobe, Kobe had 15 points on 6-for-18 shooting.

    In the 12 minutes that Manu guarded Kobe, Kobe had 16 points on 7-for-7 shooting.

    Anymore comments?

    Didn't think so.

    Game over.


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    In the 35 minutes that Bowen guarded Kobe, Kobe had 15 points on 6-for-18 shooting.

    In the 12 minutes that Manu guarded Kobe, Kobe had 16 points on 7-for-7 shooting.

    Anymore comments?

    Didn't think so.

    Game over.

    You win.

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    Bowen guarded Kobe partly in the 4th but in overtime mostly.
    Bowen and Kobe entered the fourth quarter at the same time. Bowen guarded him for the entire fourth quarter and overtime.

    I also watched Kobe not have to guard anybody for 3 quarters almost until Manu made him work in the 4th, which I believe took the energy out of Kobe's fire in the 4th.
    Uh, Radmanovic was the main defender on Manu in the fourth and in overtime.

    Kobe scored 31pts in the game. If he scored 15-16pts on Bowen, then obviously he scored the other half of his pts on the other guy(being Manu), which I guess could say that Bowen's defense really wasn't any better than Manu's in this game.
    16 points in 12 minutes on 7-for-7 shooting is the same as 15 points in 35 minutes on 6-for-18 shooting?

    Interesting.

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    Bowen is called on every night to pester and handle the superstar of the opposing team. Is there anyone else in the league that is asked to do this?

    No one is going to stop the Kobes, TMacs, Lebrons, and Ray Allens of this world from scoring. But I also believe that no one gets in their heads like Bowen does.

    They hit the court knowing they are going to have to work for everything they get.

    Yeah, Bruce isn't a youngster any longer. Maybe he has lost a half a step. But I also believe no one in the league works on conditioning the way Bruce does. And this is knowing he isn't going to be called on to score and be a hero, but to simply defend the best of the best the other team has.

    Bruce is certainly an example to hold up to kids of what a team player really is. He knows his role and carries it out every night.

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    Wouldn't Manu's block of Kobe's shot and the flail attmept at a shot afterwards count as two shot attempts?

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    In the 35 minutes that Bowen guarded Kobe, Kobe had 15 points on 6-for-18 shooting.

    In the 12 minutes that Manu guarded Kobe, Kobe had 16 points on 7-for-7 shooting.

    Anymore comments?

    Didn't think so.

    Game over.


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    Wouldn't Manu's block of Kobe's shot and the flail attmept at a shot afterwards count as two shot attempts?
    Manu was the help defender.

    Manu as a help defender is one of the best in the game. Manu as a primary defender on a top of the line scorer is average at best.

    And that's probably being nice.

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    Manu was the help defender.

    Manu as a help defender is one of the best in the game. Manu as a primary defender on a top of the line scorer is average at best.

    And that's probably being nice.
    Where have I heard that before?

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    Where have I heard that before?
    Probably the last time I said it after Manu got lit up when Bowen went to the bench.

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    Manu was the help defender.

    Manu as a help defender is one of the best in the game. Manu as a primary defender on a top of the line scorer is average at best.

    And that's probably being nice.
    True it was help defense but you have to give Manu credit there. He bailed Bruce's ass out on that one.

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    Argentina should build a statue of Bruce Bowen in the middle of the town square in Buenos Aires because without Bowen, Manu would have to actually defend other shooting guards.

    And Manu's status as a basketball God wouldn't be as golden.

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