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    Amare did get shut down, KG is playing out of his mind

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    Wolves currently at 118 points (avg. 96) with 62% shooting. Impressive.

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    Somewhat impressive yeah but also you have to wonder if the suns do really play defense only when they need it.

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    Man, KG went off tonight 40+...picked a good time to do it. Was a nice streak tho. Congrats to the Suns and fans. Really ready to see what happens against the Spurs.

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    I know a lot of them have come late in the game, but how do you have a game where almost half of your shots are 3s?

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    looks like the mavs are on top of the west again.

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    well suns fans get what they want a loss
    so the suns will be hungier against the spurs

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    Game es

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    Can't watch the game on the tube here but it seems as if the Suns turned the ball over frequently just in the last half of the fourth. This is what I saw: Nash bad pass turnover, Nash bad pass turnover, Raja Bell bad pass turnover. Choking? Or does it just seem more like it on the play-by-play?

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    Somewhat impressive yeah but also you have to wonder if the suns do really play defense only when they need it.
    Granted, it will be different after tonight's game, but...

    Phoenix opponants FG%: 45.1
    Dallas opponants FG%: 45.2

    Come on. You aren't in the top-10 in defensive FG% allowed at this date in the season by only playing occasionally.

    Like I said, they won't be there after this game, but still. They play defense plenty. Just not today. Sucks. Garnett took full advantage.

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    There is a God...NICE

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    now if the suns lose against the spurs it won't be beacuse ''they had to lose sometime''

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    When I talk about defense FG% is important but look at points per game allowed.

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    Can't watch the game on the tube here but it seems as if the Suns turned the ball over frequently just in the last half of the fourth. This is what I saw: Nash bad pass turnover, Nash bad pass turnover, Raja Bell bad pass turnover. Choking? Or does it just seem more like it on the play-by-play?
    Over penetration. Both of Nash's turnovers came on dribbling into the lane, getting surrounded and having to force a tough pass to teammates hovering around the perimeter.

    Bell's was a fluke.

    I wouldn't say choke, but then, I'm a fan. I've seen them handle the pressure plenty late this season. Tonight, they just couldn't get the stops after allowing the wolves to do whatever they wanted for the first three quarters. On offense, they fell behind and started forcing up perimeter jumper after perimeter jumper.

    It was a great run, but Minnesota beat them this game. Suns didn't lose it, Minny beat them.

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    When I talk about defense FG% is important but look at points per game allowed.
    PPG allowed isn't a sign of true defense. not when you play not a fast paced game.

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    Damn KG was a lunatic, hitting every fadeaway conceivable.

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    All well the streak had to end sometime. Bring on the Spurs.

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    When I talk about defense FG% is important but look at points per game allowed.
    Nope. You can't look at PPG alone beacuse the Suns uptempo style allows for more possessions. With more possessions come more shots. With even 10 more possessions at just 40% shooting, that's roughly an eight extra points per game than a slowed down tempo team.

    Same two teams, the Suns tempo allows opponants over 12 more possessions than does Dallas' tempo.

    PPG is not the most accurate factor. The best factor is defensive FG%, then an adjusted rebounding rate and then and adjusted per-100 possession PPG.

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    PPG allowed isn't a sign of true defense. not when you play not a fast paced game.
    well then I guess we can say that the spurs,bulls,rockets don't play good D. gee and I thought they did play d

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    In a reversal of the typical Suns' 4th qtr, the Suns went cold and the Wolves got hot.

    Wolves finish FG 59% vs 49%

    Wolves probably won't shoot 59% for the rest of the season.

    So the Spurs stretch the Suns' streak to 2 on Thursday.

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    Suns lost to the Wolves. That's kind of sad, isn't it?

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    Suns lost to the Wolves. That's kind of sad, isn't it?
    Kind of like the Spurs losing to the Bobcats.

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    Don't get to watch too many Suns games. But, I saw them play Cleveland on ABC the other day and I thought they were actually pretty solid defensively. Not spectacular. Probably not even great. But, they do play defense.

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    Damn...Suns lost.

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    well then I guess we can say that the spurs,bulls,rockets don't play good D. gee and I thought they did play d
    It's obvious you haven't followed basketball very long. You should pull your head out of your ass and acknowledge posters that offer advice. It won't always come to you so courteously.

    The Bulls, Spurs, Rockets and Mavericks all play at a tempo that dictates roughly 80 shot attempts or fewer for their opponants. The Suns tempo dictates for roughly 88. That's a minimum of eight extra shot attempts, which is why you have to look at an adjusted per-100 possession opponants PPG to get a true sense of a team's defense.

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