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We've never had the best talent in the West, EVER. We beat the Lakers twice (99,03) being under-manned, talent-wise. Phoenix was more talented in 05.
If you go by rosters, SA would have never won a le.
if only popovich would actually play that lineup. we all know that when it comes playoff time, elson will be on the bench and finley or barry will be playing in his place. and that makes howard, dampier, harris, terry only that much better. again it's gonna be a layup drill for those guys and the spurs are going to get killed on the glass.
a lot of people talk about elson, but he does what the spurs need most: he gets rebounds and he can prevent easy layups. all this about his hands and rotations, i don't give a about. that's far down the list of the problems facing the spurs, while poor rebounding and poor interior defense is high up on the list.
We've never had the best talent in the West, EVER. We beat the Lakers twice (99,03) being under-manned, talent-wise. Phoenix was more talented in 05.
If you go by rosters, SA would have never won a le.
Who cares about "Right Now?" It's still the regular season, anything can happen in the playoffs. Case in Point, Dirk was playing great last playoffs...cue in to Game 3-6 of the NBA Finals last season, and he wasn't playing so well was he? He still had a great regular season run last year too, didn't he?
Obviously the Mavs are a better team than the Spurs right now. Anyone who watches basketbal can see that. Mavs may arguably even be the best team in the league right now. However, many Mavs fans have a bad habbit of just looking at the stats to make grand proclamations. Look again at Tim Duncan the past 5 or 6 games and tell then tell me that Dirk is playing better basketball than him....on both ends of the floor.
Obviously the Mavs are a better team than the Spurs right now. Anyone who watches basketbal can see that. Mavs may arguably even be the best team in the league right now. However, many Mavs fans have a bad habbit of just looking at the stats to make grand proclamations. Look again at Tim Duncan the past 5 or 6 games and tell then tell me that Dirk is playing better basketball than him....on both ends of the floor.
Damn 1Parker1, you're getting more and more attractive by the week!
good post
"Mavs may arguably even be the best team in the league right now."
Who would argue they aren't? Their win rate now is 67-17
I wouldn't have posted this topic except all the other threads harp on our bench--back-up PGs and C and how ______ sucks (fill in Barry, Horry or Finley as desired.) These guys are problematic as effective players but they play limited minutes.
Thou shalt not read other threads before posting one of your own about the same thing.
We're getting the kicked out of us at the 2 and 5 positions against well-balanced teams like Phoenix and Dallas.
Foolish Mavs fans, looking at numbers to help determine who the best player is. What we were thinking? Obviously, a much more accurate method is to simply ask a Spurs fan which player is better. That's the only way to get a truly verifiable, scientific, undeniable answer.
Obviously the Mavs are a better team than the Spurs right now. Anyone who watches basketbal can see that. Mavs may arguably even be the best team in the league right now. However, many Mavs fans have a bad habbit of just looking at the stats to make grand proclamations. Look again at Tim Duncan the past 5 or 6 games and tell then tell me that Dirk is playing better basketball than him....on both ends of the floor.
And, just to write at least one thing sans heavy sarcasm, looking at "both ends of the floor" still yields the result that Dirk is playing better basketball than Duncan right now and has been all season. You make some bizarre point that it's the regular season, as if that means we can't compare players. You can keep going on and on about how in the playoffs Duncan will be better than Dirk because he has 3 rings and 19 MVPs or whatever the , but it's all conjecture and honestly it means nothing.
I guess I'll just have to be comfortable in the fact that the Mavs are currently better than the Spurs, and that the former's superstar is playing better ball than the latter's.
I have one word for you.......BENCH.
First of all, Howard over Bowen might be enough to swing the top 5 in favor of the Mavs because the others are so close. And Dirk will out score Timmy 3 nights out of 4.
But regardless, it's all about the 6-9 guys who make the difference. So let's compare those: I like your Oberto guy but he is about it off the bench.
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I hate to agree with a guy called amarelooms but he is correct.
in the playoffs:
parker = terry
manu > harris
bowen < howard
tim = dirk
elson/oberto < dampier
and mavs bench >>>>>> spurs bench
also
Mavs have roleplayers, Spurs don't have any
not true. again, spurs used to have deepest team in the league with powerful bench those previous years, now we have .
No..technically what we have is a bench that potentially could rise up given a playoff schedule that lets teams rest in-between games and experienced players.
I am a strong believer in that you don't have to have the best regular season record in the L, to win the le. I think that at times, the coaching staff can accept losses if there is a larger lesson to be learned.
Mavs fan loves to puff out the chest, but in reality, we all know that they worry for the playoffs. They all know that they have a physically strong team, but mentally...they could lose it. And that is what Mavs fan worries about. It's the main reason they are still the MAV-NOTS.
The criticism of Bowen used to be hidden under the euphemism of the "long 3" as though we were OK as a dominant teadm except in a couple of individual matchups like Dirk.
But it really didn't matter that much in the long run because teams like Phoenix and the Mavs couldn't play at our level and didn't have the dominant players equal to our Big Three.
Euphemisms and excuses and psychobabble about 'intangibles' and past history will repeat are no longer possible. The lack of an athletic long three who can also score in double figures is hurting us in lots of ways--rebounding, interior defense and the fact that the opponents can ignore Bowen on offense and double up on our Big Three with impunity.
This is not looking good!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not even about Bowen, there are some players that help a team win by just playing with maximum effort on the D side of the court. Ben Wallace and Bruce Bowen aren't players that you would consider offensive threats but their D is what makes them who they are. Where the double up hurts is when designated role players are given wide open shots on the basis of good play setup and then MISSING THEM ALL TO .rebounding, interior defense and the fact that the opponents can ignore Bowen on offense and double up on our Big Three with impunity.
Again, Bruce's role isn't to give the team 10 points per and play against the world's best perimeter scorers.
He has never scored more than 8.2 per. So if we're relying on him to make shots, then what is Barry, Finley, Horry, and Bonner supposed to be doing?
That is the issue. When these guys make shots...the Spurs win no matter who is on the court. That is why I feel, that the break between games is of great benefit to the Spurs and I'm willing to concede a few losses as long as the team plays to it's capabilities in April, May, & June.
So if your measurement for "right now" is that he leads in scoring, then yes, Dirk is a better scorer than Timmy. But Timmy leads in rebounds, blocked shots, assists, field goal percentage AND steals. That makes Timmy the more complete player. Period.
Tim has played at this same exact level since his rookie season. Dirk has been playing at this level the last two years.
Sustainability it was separates the two. That and 5 MVP's.
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