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This is so true it's scary.
ding ding remember 04 when nobody would hit an outside shot in the playoffs? Same when the Lakers rolled the Spurs in 01, and 02. Theyd send 3 guys at Duncan and make the other team beat you. The pheonix game Marion was put on Parker, and when that happens Bowen has to hit the wide open threes he's given thanks to Nash caring more about sitting up the next offensive play than guarding him.
This is so true it's scary.
Summer 2008 we get Elton Brand. Until then, it's free swim.
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Huh? You can't practice rebounding? Is that why we can't rebound in the first place?"Utah, it's hard to beat them on the boards, because they are really good," Manu Ginobili said. "But usually Phoenix is a team that's not that good a rebounding team, and they got us, too. So we just have to think more about it, everybody (has to) go hard, try to compete every single possession, and try to change that. But it's not something you can practice. You've just got to go at it."
Rebounding you can practice. Hustle, energy, and youth you can't.
So yes, we need some kind of trade. Or for Elson to turn into a beast...
TD is having less minutes this reg season,that´s why.how come td doesnt pull down 15+ rebs sometimes like how KG does on a one man n team.....very
He is still capable to grab 15+rebs p/game.+we know Manu is capable to average 20 + pts in the playoffs.
we´ll see what happens when the playoffs come around,but I still think that with a 3 men orchestra wont be enough to beat Dallas or Phoenix in the playoffs.Everybody needs to step up as well.
It's not just your post guys you need to get rebounds. You need to get the SF motivated to get in there too. Bowen averages a pathetic 2.6 rebounds a game. As a PF, Dirk is nothing special rebounding-wise yet DAL still has the third-highest rebound-differential (for-against) because SF Josh Howard gets in there and averages 7.5 rebounds a game. NYY is first in that category despite Eddy Curry being one of the weakest rebounding C's in the game because SF Q. Richardson gets in there and averages 7.3 rebounds a game. You can't rely on just your post players to vacuum up rebounds. They need help.
bowen will never be a good D.rebounder,cause he always too busy guarding the other team´s best perimetral player,who happens to shoot more tham the rest of his teammates,and he´ll be trying to get that shot blocked.
The Spurs haven't been structured around a strong-rebounding SF for ages. basically, they have started two swingmen ever since they got Bowen, and traded off size and rebounding for Bowen's superior defense.
Making that scheme work depended on excellent rebounding from the PF and C. It was a lot easier when David Robinson manned the post, backed up by a rebound hog like Malik Rose in his prime.
They tried to address the issue of a bigger SF with Hedo Turkoglu, but he didn't pan out here.
They then tried to patch things together with Nesterovic and Mohammed, with Horry, and they played just well enough to deliver 1 championship, before that plan unravelled.
Now, with Horry so old, and Oberto and Elson's play so astonishingly bad, and the search for the "long 3" so unfruitful, there is nobody to pick up the slack for having a perimeter-defense-specialist swingman playing small forward.
Also, Bowen is probably around 85% of what we was at his peak.
lol, when addressing the rebounding problems Oberto only talks about crashing the offensive boards. Surrendering defensive glass might want to be addressed.
Hedo was a good rebounder for the Spurs. That was the season Pop called them the best rebounding Spurs team he had coached.
Great analysis. I agree. Bowen no longer works well for the spurs because of the weakness at the 5. With Robinson, Bowen could afford to concentrate on defense and not be in position to get many rebounds because Robinson was picking up the slack but with weak interior rebounding at the 5 now Bowen's lack of rebounding is more apparent.
Timmy had 18 rebounds in his last game against PHX. He's not having as good a rebounding year as KG, but it's clear Duncan is making a more concerted effort to block shots and hold down the fort in the lane.how come td doesnt pull down 15+ rebs sometimes like how KG does on a one man ***** team.....very
I Agree. A case could be done about Bowen's subpar defense this year for not having a good shot blocker behind him (apart from Timmy).
We could say Spurs defense as a whole has gone down since we lost a second post presence on defense.
This was pretty obvious in last year's playoffs when TD played like a beast and we got consistently killed on the boards.
In fact, Timmy has had 9 games this year with 15+ rebounds. KG has had 7 games of 15+ rebounds.how come td doesnt pull down 15+ rebs sometimes like how KG does on a one man ***** team.....very
say whatever junk you want about elson, but don't say the guy can't rebound.
rebounding is a huge problem for the spurs. so the logical step would be to play elson since he's the second best rebounder on the team. but that hasn't been happening. the result? more poor rebounding as a whole.
so the spurs can either stop ing about rebounding and continue losing or play elson and at least give themselves a shot (there is no trade coming. quit dreaming).
the problem with that is that with Elson on the floor, the opposing team does not need to worry about offensive rebounds cause his defense sucks so bad, they will score on the first try.
I would start Elson and then Bonner.
I'd tell Fab he may as well make himself useful and help the ball boy pick up the jock straps from the floor after practice, clean the toilets really good--use alot of elbow grease there, Fab cause the players have been sick as this year and have been puking and ting their germs all over the place...
Last edited by Big Shot Rob; 02-05-2007 at 04:00 PM.
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Elson has worse career rebounding numbers per minute than Rasho.
popovich needs to make some adjustments. he should try doing what so many other teams do to the spurs, pack the lane and force jumpshots. that would cut down a lot on the so-called "rotations" problem. maybe elson isn't great at rotating on defense, but he can definitely guard the rim. obviously, a good coach would make adjustments to make up for his team's deficiencies.
what's funny is how you ignore their stats this year. rasho is averaging less rebounds while playing four more minutes a game.Elson has worse career rebounding numbers per minute than Rasho.
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