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  1. #26
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    Nice win for the Suns w/o Nash for the 2nd half. Hope the shoulder injury doesn't linger.

    While I didn't see the game last night...I'm curious as to how does your defense become stifling for extended periods of time and still gives up 108 pts?
    They gave up 60 in the first half then came to play in the second after nash was out.

    I am still hoping one of these days the Suns will put together a complete game.

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    Either way, it's good that the Suns pulled off this win. They're getting in that typical February lull which I hate to see from them.

    Still, karma must have given the Suns this win because in the original game, they would have faced a Nuggets team without Andre Miller, AI, Melo, Joe Smith, or JR Smith before it got snowed out.

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    The spurs bench could beat the Suns w/out Nash

    That is highly unlikely, since your bench could not even score much against the Suns in the game last Thursday. Your starters had enough trouble scoring as it was (87 points). Also, Nash was injured in that game and still played.

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    I believe the Suns have a 2-0 record without Nash. 3-0 if you include this game.

    Where do you get off saying the Suns can't win without Nash?

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    That is highly unlikely, since your bench could not even score much against the Suns in the game last Thursday. Your starters had enough trouble scoring as it was (87 points). Also, Nash was injured in that game and still played.
    wow, i agree with you

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    I believe the Suns have a 2-0 record without Nash. 3-0 if you include this game.

    Where do you get off saying the Suns can't win without Nash?
    which is why nash should not get a third mvp

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    Wasn't that Melo's first double digit rebounding effort this season as well?

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    wow, i agree with you

    Hope it is not the last time!

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    which is why nash should not get a third mvp

    Same could be said about Dirk, right?

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    Well, it came against Phoenix without AI playing...so theres a couple of things that should put a nice asterisk beside it.

    I think Chris Anderson could get a triple double against Phoenix with the moronic way they play.

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    Same could be said about Dirk, right?
    haha, i thought about this and my answer (predictably) is NO because if dirk is out then he would not have two other all-stars to take up the slack

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    which is why nash should not get a third mvp
    I personally don't give a hoot if Nash wins a 3rd MVP. I'd rather the Suns be perfectly capable of winning without him. Now that Barbosa's on his way to becoming an All-Star and Amare's proven he can score without Nash feeding him (23 of his 36 points last night came without Nash playing in the 2nd half), I think they can. They have, anyway.

    Suns need to continue to keep their foot placed firmly on Portland's throat. Let's get that W.

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    Well, it came against Phoenix without AI playing...so theres a couple of things that should put a nice asterisk beside it.

    I think Chris Anderson could get a triple double against Phoenix with the moronic way they play.
    I think Chris Andersen should play for the Suns if he didn't get suspended because of his moronic drug use.

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    haha, i thought about this and my answer (predictably) is NO because if dirk is out then he would not have two other all-stars to take up the slack
    They don't need them! Their bench is sooo deep!

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    Nice win for the Suns w/o Nash for the 2nd half. Hope the shoulder injury doesn't linger.

    While I didn't see the game last night...I'm curious as to how does your defense become stifling for extended periods of time and still gives up 108 pts?
    Up until the final minute of the game, when the Suns, sitting on a five to seven point lead, were content to swap seven seconds and a made layup for two free throws, Phoenix had given up just 38 points in the second half. This, after giving up 60 in the first half.

    In the third quarter, the Suns held the Nuggets to 6-of-17 shooting for 15 total points. Until the final minute of the game, when the Nuggets scored four field goals (and a FT) in the final 30 seconds, Phoenix had held Denver to 4-12 shooting. Even with the final four baskets (on six shots), it's still 8-of-18 for the quarter.

    All in all, in the second half, the Nuggets shot just 14-of-35 from the field, counting the final minute. The Suns had six steals, drew two charges and forced a shot-clock violation (plus a few loose-ball fouls and bad passes) in the second half. Throw in a a few blocks and I'd say that for a team that was ravaged the by the Nuggets inside to a tune of 60 first-half points on 23-of-47 shooting (including 13 offensive rebounds), that 40% from the field for the entire second half with upwards of a dozen forced turnovers could be labeled "stifling"...

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    Up until the final minute of the game, when the Suns, sitting on a five to seven point lead, were content to swap seven seconds and a made layup for two free throws, Phoenix had given up just 38 points in the second half. This, after giving up 60 in the first half.

    In the third quarter, the Suns held the Nuggets to 6-of-17 shooting for 15 total points. Until the final minute of the game, when the Nuggets scored four field goals (and a FT) in the final 30 seconds, Phoenix had held Denver to 4-12 shooting. Even with the final four baskets (on six shots), it's still 8-of-18 for the quarter.

    All in all, in the second half, the Nuggets shot just 14-of-35 from the field, counting the final minute. The Suns had six steals, drew two charges and forced a shot-clock violation (plus a few loose-ball fouls and bad passes) in the second half. Throw in a a few blocks and I'd say that for a team that was ravaged the by the Nuggets inside to a tune of 60 first-half points on 23-of-47 shooting (including 13 offensive rebounds), that 40% from the field for the entire second half with upwards of a dozen forced turnovers could be labeled "stifling"...
    Makes sense now. Like I said, I didn't see the game.

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    They don't need them! Their bench is sooo deep!

    That was my thought also!

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    They don't need them! Their bench is sooo deep!
    That was my thought also!
    then i guess you are both wrong because last time i checked most teams had 14-15 players of the roster...just because we play our bench a LITTLE bit more than the suns doesn't mean that our bench is soooooo deep...you're talking like two guys who contribute probably 80% of what comes off the bench (devean george and stackhouse, sometimes buckner too). ager, barea, pops, mbenga and croshere are not what i would deem part of the *deep* bench. croshere had one good game and most times he sucks...the other four haven't done much of anything all season and they average less minutes per game this season than the last four guys on the suns bench

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    then i guess you are both wrong because last time i checked most teams had 14-15 players of the roster...just because we play our bench a LITTLE bit more than the suns doesn't mean that our bench is soooooo deep...you're talking like two guys who contribute probably 80% of what comes off the bench (devean george and stackhouse, sometimes buckner too). ager, barea, pops, mbenga and croshere are not what i would deem part of the *deep* bench. croshere had one good game and most times he sucks...the other four haven't done much of anything all season and they average less minutes per game this season than the last four guys on the suns bench
    Yeah, I was just joking - the pink elephant was to signal that I was merely mocking those posters who like to rip on the Suns notoriously short rotation, when it's true that the Mavs go 9-deep at MAX.

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    Yeah, I was just joking - the pink elephant was to signal that I was merely mocking those posters who like to rip on the Suns notoriously short rotation, when it's true that the Mavs go 9-deep at MAX.
    Haha, that's cool although I think Nashfan will be disappointed to hear that you were joking, he was banking on this for a valid argument.

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    Haha, that's cool although I think Nashfan will be disappointed to hear that you were joking, he was banking on this for a valid argument.

    Nah, gotcha!

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