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Alright, enough, you win. Quit kicking me while I'm down.
I'm not a big fan of Bush either.
Alright, enough, you win. Quit kicking me while I'm down.
Is this John Ameichi?
The Vince Young hate is amazing. His running ability, his leadership skills and improvisational skills are off the freakin charts. Plus, he's arguably the greatest college quarterback to have ever played the game.
Athletically speaking, everyone on this board isn't worthy of holding VY's jock nonetheless hate.
but whatever, most of you are just Jock Sniffers anyways.
fair enough
I would argue that there really isn't that much Vince Young hate. I don't hear it very often, if anything I hear an unGodly amount of Vince Young love. Maybe it's a perception thing, but that's how I see it.
Oh, and "Jock Sniffers"?
Furthermore, in regards to the above quote, no . That's why we are on this board talking about the guy rather then making millions being him.
I would imagine that most everone on this board doesn't have the athletic ability to compare with the 2nd string left guard of the Detroit Lions either.
^^I know, like Im sitting here benching 260 on the incline while I type. Opinions people, dont have to get pissed about it, just make points to state your case. Oh, and I actually am repping 250 right now, no big deal
Exactly. Just look at this thread, I was having a tantrum about Vince Young, I was put in my place about it by Mardigan and Stretch. I admitted being wrong, it's done. No big deal. Everyone wins or loses arguments all the time.
And even if you still thought the same thing, oh well. I hate Matt Lienhart and think he looks like a giant (literally), and no one will ever change my mind about it, aside from him carrying me out of a burning building, , but who cares what I think. Just talking...
If winning is more important than stats, why is VY going instead of Pennington?
I was wondering that as well, but I think Pennington declined. I'm not positive on that though.
Never mind, Pennington didn't decline, he was passed over. OOOOoooohhhh, someone comes to Johnsmith's side of the argument.
I've heard all that matters is Ws, especially when your stats suck as bad as his do.
Then when Pennington's name came up, suddenly it turned into total TDs...
Funny how that works...
dumbass total TDs is a stat.
Imagine Barry Sanders at QB completing 50% of his passes. Freakin Detroit would have been awesome.
All I know is that McNair declined as well, so if its between Chad and Vince, the league isnt dumb, its going to put in the mor exciting player for the fans
I don't think you are understanding what he's saying.
That's exactly the point.
It is about what you do for your team, wins do matter, but along with having a decent year. Bringing up tds doesnt prove anything except that players might have had similiar years on paper, which they did. Like I said before, it also comes down too which player would you want to watch, Vince or Chad? And stop acting like Chad put up great #s, 17 tds to 16 ints? Grossman put up better numbers. And if Vince had started all year, that Jet playoff spot very well could have been a an spot
Vince Young is in the Pro Bowl?
Why not, he's freaking Vince Young!!!
Keep drinking that Haterade.
no the point is you're evaluting QBs through your racist gogles. VY will run the ball down your throat from the QB position and that skill wins games. Having to even explain it to you tells me you think the white stiff pocket passer is what a QB should be.
Oh snap!!! Race off!!
Apparently, every single passing stat is racist as well. And the W/L record when compared to a QB who has a better one...
Damn you statistics and W/L record(only when used against VY). Damn you to !
I don't think vy was a clearcut probowler, look at all the afc qbs who declined
LOSMAN, HUARD, pennington and roethlisberger did not get "snuffed", they did not have a better season than VY, yes using total TDs, factoring in wins and team impact
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