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i like tony and all but since when are payton and kidd the standard for pgs? are they even in the HOF yet? is KJ in the hof? because to me parker is a poor man's kevin johnson, more similar to him than to kidd, payton, nash. nevermind magic, IT, stockton...
and how many triple doubles did they have at tony's age?
And those "other" players assume no responsibility for not capitalizing when he does get them the ball? C'mon. The supporting role is also culpable for Tony's lower assist total.
Say all you want about his at ude, but you're wrong. He's taken all of his criticism in stride and done his best to accommodate/improve in EVERY facet of the game. This article is a testimony to that.
One of the things I'm quick to point out when the Parker-haters use the phrase "never will be", is that Parker has shown steady improvement each year and he's ONLY 24. I can't think of a single NBA player that peaked at 24.
a) That's 5 or 6 years out....I doubt he'll be held to what he said in 2004/5/6 for a decision he'll be making in 2011.
b) I haven't seen any article or comment by Parker stating that. Not saying it's not out there, just need proof. The only thing I've heard is the "LA or NY" rumors because of his high-profile relationship with Eva and being closer to her work.
You're point is well taken that he probably won't be back after the next contract if the Spurs' future looks bleak. That's why it's important for the Spurs not to sacrafice immediate success for future long-term progress.
The Spurs particularly need to have a legitimate low-post presence in the fold as Duncan gets ready to retire, whether it be Scola, Butler, Mahinmi, or someone to-be-drafted.
Steady impovement - yes. But not on mental level. In last few seasons his mental point guard related abilities have remained the same. He doesn't run the game any better than he did 3 seasons ago.
I have been EXTREMELY hard on Parker for the past couple of seasons but his play in recent weeks has impressed me. My expectations of him were simple. I wanted him to play smarter, not force anything, and find ways to help the team when he's not scoring. He has done that and I think he will become an even better point guard because of it. He deserves big time props.
You're just flat-out wrong. His decision-making has improved over the past three years, ESPECIALLY in crunch time.
Does he still make mistakes? Yes. Is his first instinct to score? Yes. But, is he a finished product? No.
A main point in this article was Pop trying to teach Tony not to think in terms of "shooting", but to think in terms "balance" and learning to take what the defense give him. Tony trusts Pop and tries to do what he says. I have no doubt that Pop will continue to give him lessons, and Tony will continue to improve.
To reiterate my point though....Tony HAS improved.
We will see who is wrong. So far I have a scaringly high realization of my predictions.
It's interesting, but I consider this article to be NEGATIVE regarding Parker's chances to become better PG. His statements are not showing ANY appreciation for Pop's requests for him to become better.A main point in this article was Pop trying to teach Tony not to think in terms of "shooting", but to think in terms "balance" and learning to take what the defense give him. Tony trusts Pop and tries to do what he says. I have no doubt that Pop will continue to give him lessons, and Tony will continue to improve.
I have no objections regarding Parker's workrate or extent to which he tries to do what Pop tells him. No problems at all. He works hard and tries his best to match Pop's expectations. But every player has his limitations. IMO Tony will not be able to overcome some of the mental ones, he already talks about "Leave me alone, I want to be myself, I want to shoot."
And your realization is that a two-time all-star with two rings by the age of 24 who has shown steady improvement will suddenly decline?
The article statement above refutes the claim that he has any lack of appreciation for Pop. It looks to me like he's a 24yr old kid that just misunderstood the change that Pop asked him to make. After beating it in his head to be aggressive and look to score for so long, Pop asked Tony to go in a distinctly different direction. Tony initially took it as "throttle back" but now understands what Pop was trying to teach.
First of all, that's the most rediculous quote I've read in a while...did you just make that up and imply that Tony said it?
Secondly, I understand Tony may never be a 10+ assist guy, but he has the capacity to grow in that respect beyond a 6 assist guy, and the fact that you fail to recognize it as a possiblity is what puzzles me.
WTF?!?! Am I responsible for you reading the posts? No, I'm not. But I'll try for one last time. Maybe you will understand...And your realization is that a two-time all-star with two rings by the age of 24 who has shown steady improvement will suddenly decline?
I don't care if you agree... but don't change my words. Don't say that my opinion is something that it isn't. Ok? Can I ask that? Can I say I have the right for asking you that? Would it help if I say "Pleeeeease"? No? Don't be moronic prick and be fair. Don't put words in my mouth and don't ask questions which I have already answered. As I said, you can have a different opinion, but don't act like some other dirty posters around here. Please. And thanks.In last few seasons his mental point guard related abilities have remained the same. He doesn't run the game any better than he did 3 seasons ago.
And one last thing, I admit I'm prejudiced when it comes to shoot first PG's. I don't like them. For me, a team with a shoot first PG is not a complete basketball team. It' doesn't mean that it's a bad team, some good teams in past and present have no real center and are considered good teams. But it's just not a complete team.
Tony will try, but the mentality is one of the shoot first PG. Also I see him as a "first me, then team" kind of a player, which hurts even more because of his position. I don't like players like him, Carter, Kobe,... I like team players, because basketball is a team sport.
Go back in 2001 and see how many people predicted with the same assurance that Tony would never ever be an all-star, that no way he could become the player he became...
rofl keep up BgT...
your posts are really impressive.
you could make me smile for hours because you believe so hard in the sh!t you're saying that it's close to being incredible...
Problem is you're talking about these guys in their prime not at 24.
I understand what you say. Normally, I am very cautious when it comes to very young PG's. Just take a look at Nash, there was some point in his career when he elevated his game to another level. PG progress is different and Tony is a very good PG for his age. I just don't think he will do that same jump step higher to become a real PG. I might be wrong, I might be right, who knows.
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BgT IQ:107 but too ugly to be a spursfan.
I wanted to answer something, but then I took a look at your profile, avatar,...BELIEEEEEEEEVEEEE!!!!
Tony has improved every season- but I do think it is a valid point to be concerned that still after all this time that when Pop talks to Tony about better decisons making, all he hears is "shoot less." It isn't about quan y, but quality of decisons that Pop is trying to get him to understand. I think he still has quite a way to go to understand that- as shown by his comments, and the observations of Brent Barry that seem to imply that Tony still just doesn't see the big picture.
Yeah I particulary like the :
We will see who is wrong. So far I have a scaringly high realization of my predictions.
Nostradamus is in da place.
i havent changed it since the '05 le but you sure werent in here boy.I wanted to answer something, but then I took a look at your profile, avatar,...
The PG's job is to know where on the floor his teamates have the most success shooting the ball... where they like to get the ball.... When tony gets them the ball there and they nail the shot, then tony's a good PG making his team better. When he gets them the ball there and they brick, tony's not a good PG and doesn't make his team better.It's about how good he can make OTHER players! And Parker doesn't make his teammates better.
If the San Antonio Bricks would make their shots, we wouldn't even be having this convo because tony would avg 7+ assists
Hey, I'm not THAT ugly!
It's just simple:tony is still learning,I think the only problem finally is that he learns too fast.
Some people just can't bear that he is already an all-star and nba champion,they think he doesn't deserve it.
One solution:these pople should masturbate more
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