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    ^Evidently Noel has not signed with WVU today and is waiting to sign at this point. Per CNNSI he's talked with his 'mentor', Deion Sanders and Sanders is telling him to wait a bit before he makes his decision.

    Reading between the lines I would assume he wants the kid to sign with FSU. Too bad FSU is a sinking ship, but oh well.
    at first he wanted to go to um but really dont nned em since we got javvaris james

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    WVU is looking good for Noel.
    Yeah, I think he has West Virginia as his top school.

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    uups stups! Cant_Be_Faded's Avatar
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    somebody please post who all UT ended up getting, not counting all the recruits we lost due to our ty season, thanks

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    Sam Acho DE 6-2 250 4.7 Dallas, TX
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    uups stups! Cant_Be_Faded's Avatar
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    So what you are saying is John Chiles did not turncoat over to OU??

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    Damion James did commit to a&m so who knows

  7. #32
    ...it was a down year for A&M recruiting, i admit. but USC came with it.....again.

  8. #33
    I knew you would be jackin off because McKnight picked USC. When I seen that he choose USC, first thing came to mind, jgw will be postin all over the place.
    USC greatness...

  9. #34
    espn has A&M at 16...not bad. probably a bit high....but in a sense, its a crap shoot anyway.

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    espn has A&M at 16...not bad. probably a bit high....but in a sense, its a crap shoot anyway.
    It is a complete crapshoot, but ESPN tends to be very bad at it even by those standards. They work backwords. Figure if you are recruited by USC/Texas/Michigan/Florida/etc... you are a good player and get rated highly, instead of the other way around.

    Lemming had a decade full of giving Notre Dame top 5 classes. These classes were finishing with .500 records for the Irish. Now, Bob Davie wasn't a great coach by any stretch, but he wasn't so awful to waste all that talent. It was just a case of where the kids were being rated highly for no other reason than they were Notre Dame commitments.

    This doesn't even take into account that Lemming is famous for letting his own personal bias affect his ratings. I don't know where to find it, but I highly recommend listening to his radio interview of Lorenzo Booker if you can find it, he just makes a complete fool out of himself and it really shows the dirty side of these recruiting sites. There is a fine line between recruiting analyst and unofficial booster.
    Last edited by K-State Spur; 02-08-2007 at 02:30 PM.

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    ^I don't even pay attention to ESPN's list, it's pretty much complete crap. The only real sites I go to for infor are Bobby Burton's/rivals site and the local Orangebloods site run by Ketchum, of course that's nothing but Longhorn recruiting info.

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    The problem with recruiting rankings is that they tend to be reactionary.

    People like to point out that most of the teams that finish in the top 5 had recruiting rankings in the top 10 over the past 4-5 years. But is it really going out on any kind a limb to say that the players recruited by USC, Texas, Florida, Ohio State, are going to be good in a few years?

    If recruiting rankings were so accurate, then they should be able to predict a team's on-coming successes. Yet, they rarely, if ever, do. None of the rating services had Rutgers' recent classes in the top 30, let alone the top 10. According to virtually every recruiting service, Wake Forest would have been better off committing mass suicide than even taking the field against most of the rest of the ACC. And the opposite holds true as well, recruiting rankings have been unable (for the most part) to predict programs on the downfall. Florida State's disappointing season consisted of players who were recruited into top 10 recruiting classes in 4 of the last 5 years. Penn State always manages a top 20 class. Contrary to popular belief, USC was still recruiting highly ranked classes even before Pete Carroll got there.

    Rankings tend to be the cart that follows the horse, not the horse that is pulling the cart.

    And, to be a bit of a homer, K-State had 4 straight 11-win, top 10 seasons without a single recruiting class rated in the top 25.

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    who thinks recruiting rankings are accurate?

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    ^Can't part of that with K. State be attributed to Snyder's ability to get top notch juco talent? There are a number of recruiting services that don't take into account juco players, or they have difficulty really finding an accurate rating for these guys.

    Regardless, I agree with you. You can get all the top notch talent you want, but if you can't coach these kids, put them in the right positions to succeed-then having highly rated recruits doesn't mean much.

    Being a UT homer, I pretty much just read and keep up with in state recruiting, since that's where we get almost all of our players. Additionally, over the years the level of high school football in Texas is pretty stout. You get good players from Texas high schools and put them in the right system/fit with your team and you're going to do pretty well imo.

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    The problem with recruiting rankings is that they tend to be reactionary.

    People like to point out that most of the teams that finish in the top 5 had recruiting rankings in the top 10 over the past 4-5 years. But is it really going out on any kind a limb to say that the players recruited by USC, Texas, Florida, Ohio State, are going to be good in a few years?

    If recruiting rankings were so accurate, then they should be able to predict a team's on-coming successes. Yet, they rarely, if ever, do. None of the rating services had Rutgers' recent classes in the top 30, let alone the top 10. According to virtually every recruiting service, Wake Forest would have been better off committing mass suicide than even taking the field against most of the rest of the ACC. And the opposite holds true as well, recruiting rankings have been unable (for the most part) to predict programs on the downfall. Florida State's disappointing season consisted of players who were recruited into top 10 recruiting classes in 4 of the last 5 years. Penn State always manages a top 20 class. Contrary to popular belief, USC was still recruiting highly ranked classes even before Pete Carroll got there.

    Rankings tend to be the cart that follows the horse, not the horse that is pulling the cart.

    And, to be a bit of a homer, K-State had 4 straight 11-win, top 10 seasons without a single recruiting class rated in the top 25.
    i'd agree with most of that.

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    who thinks recruiting rankings are accurate?
    husker fans

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    ^Can't part of that with K. State be attributed to Snyder's ability to get top notch juco talent? There are a number of recruiting services that don't take into account juco players, or they have difficulty really finding an accurate rating for these guys.
    Somewhat, although K-State relied on far fewer jucos players than the media gave them credit for. Roughly 80% of the K-State draft picks during the Snyder era were recruited as high school players. Darnell McDonald, Quincy Morgan, Michael Bishop, and Jeff Kelly were the only huge impact JC guys during Snyder's reign.

    Snyder made his success by getting guys that the services (and other coaches) severely underrated. Darren Sproles was ranked somewhere in the 30s as an all-purpose back within his own class. Terry Pierce & Terrence Newman were both 1-Star (!!!!!!!) recruits according to rivals.

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    cause we are the best?

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    yeah for the 5 years its been USC- and everyone else (Florida, Texas, LSU and Ohio St.)

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    yeah for the 5 years its been USC- and everyone else (Florida, Texas, LSU and Ohio St.)
    well, USC has two les and played for 3 in those 5 years. so yeah, i'd say it was them and everyone else. what bowl games have those other teams been in before and after their le?

    booyah!

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    Not this again, you did not win two les, and you REALLY didnt PLAY for 3

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    Not this again, you did not win two les, and you REALLY didnt PLAY for 3
    ...right back at you. you, obviously, don't know anything about CFB...otherwise you wouldn't have made those statements. either way 2 les and played for 3 is fact.

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    Well mr dio let's see, been there three times won two.This year will be three national championships in four trips(not bad huh?) This is not considered to be a rebuilding year such as last year was.We(usc) will be picked to win the pac-10 unlike last year where cal and oregon were the overwhelming favorites.It's ON!

  25. #50
    Mookie it is called an AP co-national championship shared with Lsu, what have they won since?The ncaa considers it two so this year will make three.Face it ,this isn't it buddy,i see it continuing through the decade sort of Miami like in the late 80's early 90's.Yahoo sports thought their little effort would deter talent but they are facing a new reality today as well.

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