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how about this, move Bowen OUT OF THE IN starting 5
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Ya cause Barry is known as such a turn over machine...get a ing clue. He should have been playing back up pg months ago.Yea his team high 4 TO's today in limited minutes was great, give him the ball even more.
The turnovers were all in the first half, and 2 of them where suspect calls...traveling and palming. GMAFB....
Spurs are 2-4 since Manu is coming off the bench
Manu starting or not won't hide Finley and Barry liabilities
Like Jacque Vaughn was any better?
Barry playing tough man-to-man defense against Nelson.
Sadly enough, way better.
exactly, doesn't matter is Manu is starting or not
he will get his points and Barry and Finley will continue to struggle
I could have sworn Nelson had like 10 points in the fourth quarter with Barry not even in the game-- I recall Parker and Vaughn together...
10 in the 4th > 12 straight on Barry
Are we watching the same guy? Brent Barry looks scared to shoot, his passing has not been up to par, and more than that his defense against opposing guards has been proven to single handedly crush the Spurs chances of a win (See Magic game).
Barry 18:10 4-7-fgs 3-6-3's 4-TO 2-st 11ptsYea his team high 4 TO's today in limited minutes was great, give him the ball even more.
Finley 18:27 2-9-fgs 1-7-3's 2-TO 0-st 5 pts.
Barry had 4 TO's but also had 2 steals
Finley had 2 TO's and no steals, sounds even to me.
And if they are both poor defenders why not give the ball to the
guy with the hotter hand?
Opponents score 9 more points per 100 possessions when Barry is on the court for the Spurs. That's an ungodly high number.
Finley is second worst at 4.5.
He had something like 11 of 13 points against Barry in the third quarter and after that no one could stop him.
But seriously, we shouldn't be sitting here picking apart Barry, Finley, Bowen, Tony, Manu and Tim.
This team sucks right now first and foremost because the bigs suck.
When Oberto and Elson can't do anything defensively, then that fricks up the whole Spurs defense system. Smalls funnel the opponents baseline and they go straight to the hoop.
And then when Pop has to pull the bigs and go small, then the Spurs can't rebound or defend.
The Spurs needed to address the problem with the bigs after last year's playoffs when they were outrebounded in 11 of 13 playoff games. And though the illusion made it looked like they addressed the problem with the bigs by acquiring Elson/Butler, they really only addressed getting rid of long term contracts.
The Spurs need a big who can play next Tim to rebound and defend.
That guy apparently isn't on the roster (or he's Jackie Butler in street clothes).
So we are going to keep seeing the Spurs get beat. We are going to keep seeing teams outrebound them by double digits, we are going to keep seeing teams shoot upwards of 50%.
After the Washington game, everyone started jocking Elson again and I told everyone, hey, let's simmer down, he was matched up with a shooting guard (and I was called a hater). But these last two games it came into glaring light again. The Spurs bigs suck.
If the Spurs fixed the problem with the bigs, a lot of other things get fixed. It won't be a cure all but if the Spurs can make a trade for a big, they'll be a lot closer to winning a le than they are right now.
Scared to shoot? Barry was 4-7 and had 11 points.
Manu, Tony, and Tim turn the ball over a lot more than Brent Barry. Do you even know he has averaged less than 1 turnover per game every year he has been on the Spurs. Gripe about his defense all you want- but not his ability to handle the ball.
^What big is available though who can help us in that area this season, Kori? That's the sad part...
Ploto has a thing for the caucasians obviously.
The sad thing is we all talked last season how much Rasho and Narz sucks and who's is starting for most part of the season for us at center: Oberto, the guy who could not get minutes over Narz and Oberto
That's sad when the Mavs get rid of Finley and now you're talking about him starting for the Spurs. Must be real tough times in San Antonio, hahah.
WTF? I should ask you the same thing....quite getting recycled comments from other people...scared to shoot? The guy played 17 minutes today, was 3 for 6 from 3pt line...and had 11pts? WTF are you talking about?
And yes, again, lets now blame Barry's defense for the Spurs losing...classic. And please tell me how all the sudden his "passing" is now an issue...All the sudden he can't pass now?
The fact of the matter is the Spurs give up 91pts a game in wins AND losses...
They have a predictable non imaginative offense which does the same thing everytime down the court...and their bigs are terrible.
The problem isn't going to be solved this season, unfortunately.
But be thankful -- the Spurs have given you the gift of time! At least a dozen evenings that were going to be consumed watching playoff games can now be devoted to other endeavors.
And you can stop worrying about the roster. There is no possible outcome except failure. That realization is a huge relief.
I'm not the GM so it's not my job to find the answers
But I'm sure there's guys out there that can be had.
Haywood or EThomas are possible, but the Spurs probably think they are too expensive.
Magloire might be considered better at this point.
Stromile Swift or Stephen Hunter probably could be had.
, Danny Fortson might even be better
Kori- I have a defensive question and it's not just because it is about Rasho.
Pop always sent in defensive signals of all types through Rasho- just like he does to Tony when he calls play offensively. Whether during free throws or an out of bounds play- it was always Pop and Rasho communicating with sign language about defense. This season, Rasho still does that with Sam Mitc . Who is doing that for the Spurs? I used to at least see Nazr try. Elson does not seem to know enough about his own role, yet alone enough to guide what anyone else is doing. Is it Oberto when he is in there- or does it all fall to Tim? And who and how much talking is going on with the defense? Who is calling out screens and directing traffic, so to speak? I really do wonder.
Spurs needs more than one big able to play with Duncan. The big next Duncan will have to defend on players like Shaq and Yao but too on players like Dirk and Odom.
Spurs are slighty better this year against Dirk like players but they are worse against Shaq like players.
I think that it's falling on Tim. Though you are right that there's a lot less communication/chatter on defense this year than in the past.
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