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    Afraid like you. 21,500 more chances to serve that monster up pres. of yours. Whottt happened? Decided to stay here with your yellow spine?

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    Afraid like you. 21,500 more chances to serve that monster up pres. of yours. Whottt happened? Decided to stay here with your yellow spine?

    Wow you had a quite a bit to say there...what's the matter? Things get slow at the glory hole?

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    Been spending my time trying to find you a surgeon.

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    Giuliani ain't going nowhere with the right and of other people because of his marital history.

    He won't get the Bible thumpers because he's pro abortion.

    All he's got going for him is scripted 9/11 dog-and-pony show.

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    We weren't at war when Clinton was in office.
    Really?

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    really

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    Giuliani ain't going nowhere with the right and of other people because of his marital history.

    He won't get the Bible thumpers because he's pro abortion.

    Sincerely,



    All he's got going for him is scripted 9/11 dog-and-pony show.

    And dropping the NYC crime rate down to all time lows...and taking down the mafia.

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    Anyone want to do a forum search and find out what boutons was saying back in 04, pre-election?

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    damn, i really wish the democrats had someone better than clinton, edwards, and obama.

    lets face it
    the south will NEVER vote for hilary or obama. *sigh*
    and please, edwards would never win
    clark wont even win the democrat's nomination, b/c ironically, he is the one democrat that supports bush's war in iraq

    that leaves one hope: stephen colbert!!

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    i think obama is going to pleasantly surprise people. whether ignorant s who refuse to support him solely because he's black or because his name sounds like osama eventually change their minds about him is anyone's guess.

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    My problem with Obama is not that he's black, it's that he's one of the schmaltziest politicians I have ever seen. He makes John Kerry and W look blue collar.

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    I'm just starting to pay attention to 2K8 elections.

    Joe Biden is looking pretty hot.

    Surely. even Yonivore can look past charges of plagiarism.

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    i think thats one of the misconceptions his campaign will have to deal with. he may appear silver spooned, but I think that is only because his "clean and articulate" persona is so dichotomic next to the typical black urban politcians like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. As the American people get to know him and become more familiar with his past , he is going to shatter the high brow image people may have of him

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    2004? Abb

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    Giuliani is a JOKE!

    He is running for President, why an I not laughing.

    God save the Queen and America too
    Go Hil go- give America what she deserves.
    Clinton, part 2.

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    Hey does anyone realize that it is about 8 months away from
    the first primary. Give it a rest.

    Want to really think about something Cisneros wife just announced
    for City Council. And I will bet she wins, hands down.

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    It really doesn't matter what Giulliani or Obama have as platform or political stances. They are much more gut-feeling candidates than anything else. That's going to piss off alot of people if one of them is elected.

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    WASHINGTON (Map) - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, a former U.S. attorney in New York, said Thursday that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should get "the benefit of the doubt" in the uproar over the firings of federal prosecutors.

    "The president has addressed it," Giuliani said. "The attorney general's an honorable man. He's a decent man. He should be given a chance to explain and everybody should sort of give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him to explain."

    Republicans and Democrats alike have questioned Gonzales' leadership and some have called for him to resign as Congress investigates whether the firings of nine prosecutors over the past year were politically motivated.

    President Bush insists that the firings were appropriate and is standing by the country's top law enforcement official. Democrats argue the prosecutors were forced out for political reasons.
    Examiner

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    Gulianni is speaking to the moderates, that don't whichhunt over every newsblurb, that don't completely lose it over fair minded concepts like 2 party system and peaceful transition of power, like youself.

    I can see why nothing more than simple common sense statements seem scandalous to you...can you, Mr. Openminded Liberal?

    Moderates rule, remember that when Guilianni stomps everyone in the election.

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    Whottt's hardon for authoritarian government would serve him well here in SG.



    We have better weather than Texas, too.

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    Whottt's hardon for authoritarian government would serve him well here in SG.
    SG = Shooting Guard?

    Sometimes you need to be a little authoritarian...and sometimes not. I think Rudy is actually pretty liberal in a lot of ways...the good ways.

    And he's a hardass in a lot of the ways that, right now, we need a hardass.


    We have better weather than Texas, too.

    I'm not quite sure how to reply to that...Congrats?

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    Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
    You call him a liberal because he happens not share a wacky religious cult's obsession with procreation, but he that hardly qualifies him to represent any tradition of liberalism - economic or philosophical, including the brand of leftist politics Americans use the term to describe.

    "Fascism" is a loaded term in many parts of the English-speaking world, and in the US in particular it's been wrongly coopted by hippies and rednecks alike to describe virtually any kind of government activity, but Rudy is a fascist in the most original and anti-liberal sense, regardless of how much some gestures you see as extravagantly tolerant shine in your eyes.

    I was talking about our People's Action Party in Singapore, which despite being quite liberal economically by American standards, and certainly far more racially progressive than Giuliani ever was, is nonetheless authoritarian (and we criminalize sexuality, too, which probably puts us out of the running for "the good ways").

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    We weren't at war when Clinton was in office.
    Hey, he did bomb an aspirin factory.

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    Serial cheaters?

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Republican presidential contender Rudy Giuliani has been married three times and, as it turns out, so has his wife.

    The campaign confirmed Friday that Judith Nathan Giuliani was married twice -- not once -- before she wed the former New York City mayor in 2003. It was Giuliani's third marriage, and, until Thursday, had been thought to be his wife's second.

    But Mrs. Giuliani told The New York Post in an article on its Web site Thursday night that Giuliani was, in fact, her third husband. Her first marriage was to Jeffrey Scott Ross in 1974, when she was about 20. The couple divorced in 1979.

    She then met and married Bruce Nathan. They divorced in the 1990s.

    Campaign aides said Giuliani, close friends and family members had long been aware of Mrs. Giuliani's first marriage.

    Giuliani's first marriage to his second cousin, Regina Peruggi, ended after 14 years in divorce and later an annulment. His second marriage, to TV personality Donna Hanover, ended in a bitter divorce after he announced their breakup at a news conference in 2000.

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    Serial cheaters?


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