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Not openly being shopped ?
It's not like Barry is the name who came 90% of the time when there are trade rumors about Spurs.
They won't give him for nothing but I really think that they will shop him to teams for a more athletic SG/SF.
Barry trade value is at an all time high level, it's the moment for SA to trade him for a disgruntled player like Maggette (buy low, sell high).
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if spurs can trade barry for a -30 ys old player who can av.10ppg could be the deal of the year for the SA cheap FO.Not openly being shopped ?
It's not like Barry is the name who came 90% of the time when there are trade rumors about Spurs.
They won't give him for nothing but I really think that they will shop him to teams for a more athletic SG/SF.
Barry trade value is at an all time high level, it's the moment for SA to trade him for a disgruntled player like Maggette (buy low, sell high).
I hope they can trede him before Barry gets too old though.
See I think he is the reason the Spurs are losing. His one strength is funneling defenders baseline and in the past that would have worked. However, with no weakside help (Oberto/Elson) Tim has to play cautious which results in easy baskets come 4th quarter. Which is why you see, imho, Spurs giving up 2nd half leads consistently this year (don't believe me? See the Heat game as the latest example).
I have always believed the Finley signing would sink us until he retired. We cannot get rid of him because he is no longer a tradeable asset. He is cheap, however, due to the Dallas situation. Unfortunately, Finley has not displayed a killer instinct and has yet to prove his worth to this team. In games vs. Dallas, Finley lacks the killer instict.
Personally, I would like to see him gone and rely on Barry. Barry and Finley are a lot of the same guy to me - unathletic, jump shooter with maybe a move or two around the basket. Period. The best days are behind them and they're greatest contributions are shooting free throws and techs. Not so good when they can't draw any fouls, wouldn't you say?
The reason we'll never let Finley go is because it would do terrible things for our reputation. I absolutely loathe this at ude. I see it as the seed for where the team is at right now, with it's hands tied behind its back with complacency. I honestly cannot see any other reason why we keep Finley around (besides the buzzer beater vs. LA, fine). The guy has not proved his worth and does not have the legs to keep up. I say...
TRADE HIS A$$.
Now, you might have had a point if his current play were solely due to poor work ethic, (a la Jackie Butler), but in no way can you portray the situation as a slap in the face on his part: he's an excellent professional, his at ude is flawless, the willingness and effort are there; if his legs are not, it's not because he doesn't want them too, it's just out of his control. Players not delivering is liable to happen.
Besides, I think you might want to adjust your expectations according to reality: he costs the Spurs what only scrubs make (besides rookie scale deals), and with that in mind I don't think he's underperforming quite as badly as people make it seem. Expectations might have been higher, sure, but that's mostly our problem, not his. And though admittedly he's been a disappointment, I don't think he's reached the point you people claim he has.
And last but not least, if you feel that "What finley is doing in SA could be considered a slap on the face as well,TO THE SPURS FANS,of course", then how is it you conclude I'm saying "the spurs should reather give up a championship run this year in order of not hurting Finley´s feeling?"?
How is it someone worthless can reasonably get you a fate altering player in return? Isn't that inherently contradictory?
what about spurs fans feelings Ainstain?
I'll let you know as soon as I figure who Ainstain is, Mr. Basketball.
Next time you want to call me a dunce, remember what happened the last time our paths crossed on a Spurs' board. I don't think you want to follow that same road in this board too, and honestly I'm not in the mood either. So don't push it, alright?
Because he sucks!
I didn´t know Finley had a new agent.Now, you might have had a point if his current play were solely due to poor work ethic, (a la Jackie Butler), but in no way can you portray the situation as a slap in the face on his part: he's an excellent professional, his at ude is flawless, the willingness and effort are there; if his legs are not, it's not because he doesn't want them too, it's just out of his control. Players not delivering is liable to happen.
Besides, I think you might want to adjust your expectations according to reality: he costs the Spurs what only scrubs make (besides rookie scale deals), and with that in mind I don't think he's underperforming quite as badly as people make it seem. Expectations might have been higher, sure, but that's mostly our problem, not his. And though admittedly he's been a disappointment, I don't think he's reached the point you people claim he has.
And last but not least, if you feel that "What finley is doing in SA could be considered a slap on the face as well,TO THE SPURS FANS,of course", then how is it you conclude I'm saying "the spurs should reather give up a championship run this year in order of not hurting Finley´s feeling?"?
How is it someone worthless can reasonably get you a fate altering player in return? Isn't that inherently contradictory?
I'll let you know as soon as I figure who Ainstain is, Mr. Basketball.
Next time you want to call me a dunce, remember what happened the last time our paths crossed on a Spurs' board. I don't think you want to follow that same road in this board too, and honestly I'm not in the mood either. So don't push it, alright?
BTW.change that C.A.I avatar LOSER(hehehe)
saludos de parte de la gente de colon de sta fe.
Last edited by ArgSpursFan; 02-13-2007 at 11:05 AM.
and,who cares if finley has a poor or great work athic,Ijust go by for what I see on the floor.(nothing but crap from him)
It doesn't look like he has a kicker. Barry does though.
Okay, we're not in total disagreement here....I'm sure the Spurs would bite on a deal involving Barry if a talent like Maggette were involved...and they should.Not openly being shopped ?
It's not like Barry is the name who came 90% of the time when there are trade rumors about Spurs.
They won't give him for nothing but I really think that they will shop him to teams for a more athletic SG/SF.
Barry trade value is at an all time high level, it's the moment for SA to trade him for a disgruntled player like Maggette (buy low, sell high).
But, when Pop spoke a few weeks ago he said that none of the starters and likely no one in the 6,7, or 8 range would get moved, I assumed that meant Barry.
I guess we'll see how anxious they are to deal him for a "scorer" in the next few days....
I'm excited and cautiously optomistic about the Spurs making a deal, but if they don't.....
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