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    Is R.C. talkign right now?

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    Melvin Ely is a nice little player he can help the Spurs a little bit. The Spurs still have not filled the void that they lack. No versatile young perimeter player and also a reliable PG that can actually play, unlike Beno. In my opinion this trade really does nothing for the Spurs I don't think it has put them over Dallas, Phoenix, and Utah and with Ely they are still a 4-6 seed in the West. This trade really just leaves them where they are at now.

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    that's a novel concept...a big that knows how to set a screen!

    well I would word it more like.... DELIVER a screen.

    One thing Rasho was very good at doing.

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    let's all cheer that this man is not 35 years old. i'll take it.
    Last edited by veronicamae; 02-13-2007 at 04:49 PM.

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    Melvin Ely is a nice little player he can help the Spurs a little bit. The Spurs still have not filled the void that they lack. No versatile young perimeter player and also a reliable PG that can actually play, unlike Beno. In my opinion this trade really does nothing for the Spurs I don't think it has put them over Dallas, Phoenix, and Utah and with Ely they are still a 4-6 seed in the West. This trade really just leaves them where they are at now.
    But maybe getting a big in Ely gives them the flexibility to get rid of a different big to bring in another player.

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    Do you know if the 09 second round pick is the Hornet's one (from the Rasho trade) or Spurs 09 second round pick ?
    I guess it's the Hornet's pick but I haven't seen written somewhere.
    That'd be classic if the Bobcats insisted on the Spurs' pick.


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    Going into the trade deadline, the Spurs needed a physical big, a young perimeter player and a backup point guard.

    I think you can check one of those off the list.

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    Going into the trade deadline, the Spurs needed a physical big, a young perimeter player and a backup point guard.

    I think you can check one of those off the list.
    James White?

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    But maybe getting a big in Ely gives them the flexibility to get rid of a different big to bring in another player.
    Well I sure hope that is the plan cuz if it's not I don't see the purpose of this deal. If he was brought in to get rid of Oberto or Bonner to bring in someone else then it will make some good sense. But why not go for the perimeter guy now cuz that is what they need more now.

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    Barry/Beno for Najera/Dermarr Johnson

    DJ is a perimeter player AND can play backup PG (only for limited minutes though)

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    Well I sure hope that is the plan cuz if it's not I don't see the purpose of this deal. If he was brought in to get rid of Oberto or Bonner to bring in someone else then it will make some good sense. But why not go for the perimeter guy now cuz that is what they need more now.
    Well the Spurs bigs suck. So they needed a big too.

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    Now let's trade Beno+Oberto for Maggette (it's not going to happen , is it?)

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    Well I sure hope that is the plan cuz if it's not I don't see the purpose of this deal. If he was brought in to get rid of Oberto or Bonner to bring in someone else then it will make some good sense. But why not go for the perimeter guy now cuz that is what they need more now.
    because the spurs bigs are the key to our defense. we don't have the right personnel now which is why teams are lighting our asses up. ely is a step in the right direction and athletic big with a huge wingspan and a solid 260 to throw around

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    Well the Spurs bigs suck. So they needed a big too.
    Oh of course the Spurs bigs suck but perimeter and backup PG especially the backup PG is a much bigger void. You don't have a reliable backup PG who can control an offense and a tempo and force the team to go at a tempo that they are not used to then most teams will suffer and thats the deal with the Spurs right now. Only reason Spurs aren't suffering right now is cuz Tony Parker is young and can afford to play a ton of minutes but that is a lot of tear to the body.

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    Now let's trade Beno+Oberto for Maggette (it's not going to happen , is it?)
    Barry would have to be included AT LEAST.....

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    The Spurs can't be done dealing. I honestly think the Spurs have a decent shot at getting Maggette.

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    Oh of course the Spurs bigs suck but perimeter and backup PG especially the backup PG is a much bigger void. You don't have a reliable backup PG who can control an offense and a tempo and force the team to go at a tempo that they are not used to then most teams will suffer and thats the deal with the Spurs right now. Only reason Spurs aren't suffering right now is cuz Tony Parker is young and can afford to play a ton of minutes but that is a lot of tear to the body.
    All three of them are issues and one could argue for or against which one is MOST important.

    Bottom Line: Be happy the Spurs took steps to address at least one of their issues and hope that they're not done dealing!

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    Now let's trade Beno+Oberto for Maggette (it's not going to happen , is it?)

    I would like that trade! Let's see what happens! Trade deadline is 2/22 so you never know?

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    Oh of course the Spurs bigs suck but perimeter and backup PG especially the backup PG is a much bigger void. You don't have a reliable backup PG who can control an offense and a tempo and force the team to go at a tempo that they are not used to then most teams will suffer and thats the deal with the Spurs right now. Only reason Spurs aren't suffering right now is cuz Tony Parker is young and can afford to play a ton of minutes but that is a lot of tear to the body.
    I've been saying for weeks that I think the Spurs biggest weakness is our horrible centers. They lose games on interior D and rebounding. So I don't agree with you that perimeter/PG are bigger voids.

    However, I don't know how much Ely will help unless he's going to get 25 mpg or something.

    Right now, I still think they need to trade any combo of Elson/Oberto/Butler/Bonner/Udrih to keep ugrading.

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    The Spurs can't be done dealing. I honestly think the Spurs have a decent shot at getting Maggette.
    1.Beno could get dome minutes with the Clips, so Cassell could save some juice for the playoffs

    2.With Brand's injury, I'm sure the Clips are looking for a big man : Oberto

    3.Speaking of big men, maybe the Spurs have got Ely to trade him right away??

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    All three of them are issues and one could argue for or against which one is MOST important.

    Bottom Line: Be happy the Spurs took steps to address at least one of their issues and hope that they're not done dealing!
    I never said I wasn't happy. I said as of now with this trade they are not much improved or improved at all. If they got Ely to get rid of another big and bring in a reliable backup PG or perimeter player then we see an improvement. But with this trade as of now right now this second they are not much improved.

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    I wonder if Ely turns out to be a suprise, like Denver got with Blake. The team dumps a salary, saves money and just wants to get an exp back, but in the end they get a suprisingly good player who they will re-sign.

    Might be the same for the Spurs
    So you think he might come out and pretty much average a double-double in his first 17 games with us?? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

    haha...Well, optomism is a virtue!

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    I've been saying for weeks that I think the Spurs biggest weakness is our horrible centers. They lose games on interior D and rebounding. So I don't agree with you that perimeter/PG are bigger voids.

    However, I don't know how much Ely will help unless he's going to get 25 mpg or something.

    Right now, I still think they need to trade any combo of Elson/Oberto/Butler/Bonner/Udrih to keep ugrading.
    i agree our bigs guys suck,and that+buckup sf are the biggest issues.but i just donīt see how ely may help on the boards issue that we have if he averages 3.6 rpg in 19 mpg.let say with 25 mpg he can get what?4 rpg?
    I donīt know.I just hope it works out for the spurs good

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    I am confident the Spurs are not done yet. THey will now be able to trade Oberto(hopefully) or another big + Beno + someone else or 1st round pick for that needed backup PG or SF or both

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    I've been saying for weeks that I think the Spurs biggest weakness is our horrible centers. They lose games on interior D and rebounding. So I don't agree with you that perimeter/PG are bigger voids.

    However, I don't know how much Ely will help unless he's going to get 25 mpg or something.

    Right now, I still think they need to trade any combo of Elson/Oberto/Butler/Bonner/Udrih to keep ugrading.
    I see why you wouldn't agree with me but I still say the biggest void is perimeter game and backup PG cuz eventhough we have seen the Spurs losing games cuz of rebounds or interior D we have also seen the Spurs lose games because strictly of the perimeter and PG duties when Tony is tired. So that goes both ways all losses are not blamed on the bigs but some losses also are on the perimter end of the ball.

    I do agree with you on Ely which was my point from the beginning. Yes the Spurs bigs do suck but Ely is not that much of an upgrade of the bigs we have now. And they do need to trade Oberto or Butler or Bonner to keep upgrading. But please they need to get rid of Udrih I can honestly say that he is probably or one of the worst ball handling PG's in the NBA. I know the Spurs had thought of letting him go and have tried to but I hope the Spurs keep trying.

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