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Getting Pietrus would be awesome, but I doubt it would happen.
Hate to rain on your Maggette-love Parade, but he only played in 32 games last season, spending most of his time in street clothes with injury. I'm not trying to say he is a horrible guy, just that it's unrealistic to change his personality....the guy wants minutes and tends to be apathetic on defense, winning MIGHT change that, but I wouldn't hold my breath...Amazing how he was like that last year when the Clippers were a winning team.
This guy can also shoot in clutch situations.
Ive watched many a games this guy bag a three to win against Miami and other teams.
Get the deal done.
Getting Pietrus would be awesome, but I doubt it would happen.
I understand what you're saying...
It's kind of like having a new g/f. You tend to ignore some of the things you find wrong with them initially, but as time goes on those "quirks" magnify and you begin to understand how this heartless was single in the first place.... (my Valentine Story of the Day)
funny analogy
Looking at his season, I don't see how we could persuade them to trade him but maybe he IS on the block.
Even if we weren't sold on him remaining with the Spurs because of salary and he left for greener pastures, wouldn't this help for this year? This would put us in no worse position than we are now with having to find a roster spot open at SF that we have needed to fill anyway?
I don't know about how the trade rules work, but (in our dreams) could we trade our low-salaried Beno for Pietrus?
How could we be worse off if we were able to trade for him?
I second that.
Today maybe, but tomorrow...
The Spurs need help with scoring and rebounding today....tomorrow is another issue.
Hey, don't get me wrong...I would love to have Pietrus for the future, but he wouldn't be much help this year (a rotation spot currently held by Barry & Finley would have to be freed up), and there's no guarantee that he'd stick. Meanwhile, the Spurs would probably have to give up Butler + Beno and maybe even a first rounder....
Is that worth the risk?
Yes and I don't find that Pietrus upside is high : he is still 25 years old and I wonder if this year improvement isn't mainly due to Nelson up tempo style.
Or to the fact that he might get a new contract this off-season. Either way, he's a higher risk than Maggette, who at least is proven over an extended period of time.
Back in the day, when it was the injured list and you had to stay on for 5 games, Maggette went on because of a pedicure gone wrong. Yes, a pedicure. Doc Rivers hated him in Orlando and they shipped him out. Dunleavy apparently hates him now, and THEY'RE trying to ship him out. Do you see a pattern here? All he can do is drive the lane and draw his man into Tim's operatin area. His 3 point shooting blows. His defense blows. His at ude blows. He's like a low grade Bonzi Wells.
[QUOTE=VaSpursFan]c. magg fat??? WTF??? you can hate on him be that dood is in great freaking shape.
i think a change of environment and a winning program will go a long way in changing corey's at ude.[/QUOTE
I totally agree. If brought to San Antonio he would be alot happier. We all know he can play. So the things that we are seeing wrong with him like at ude and behavior towards management and his coaching staff would go away, leaving us with a very content player. Make the trade, send Beno and Berry and lets go to the Finals.
So you don't buy into his shooting coach not working with him?Back in the day, when it was the injured list and you had to stay on for 5 games, Maggette went on because of a pedicure gone wrong. Yes, a pedicure. Doc Rivers hated him in Orlando and they shipped him out. Dunleavy apparently hates him now, and THEY'RE trying to ship him out. Do you see a pattern here? All he can do is drive the lane and draw his man into Tim's operatin area. His 3 point shooting blows. His defense blows. His at ude blows. He's like a low grade Bonzi Wells.
Winning enviroments make a big difference...
You're forgetting his rebounding prowess, 80+% FT shooting, and ability to score. Plus dude is younger, quicker and extremely more athletic. His versatility and ability to breakdown a defense alone makes him worth the risk.
It's not like Finley and Barry don't "blow" by themselves.
, I'd take Maggette, plug him in and call it a season.
If they can't get him, the next targets should be either Gerald Wallace or Mickael Pietrus.
Not always, in fact, not often. Reclamation projects who make big money deals have little motivation to listen. Why should he? He gets paid big for two more years no matter what happens.
Oh, man--Wallace would be a great addition for us! But he's been Charlotte's
go-to guy as of late so he's probably not available for our scraps!!
Maggette has been quite bad lately : 10.2 ppg with a 29.6FG% in february.
One thing is sure: his trade value isn't raising.
clippers games don't get shown in so-cal, even the away games. exception is nationally televised games, like tnt. FSW II is the only channel that can show them.
if there was the slightest chance to land Gerald Wallace, I would say stop any tries to land Maggette and not make it plan B.
for the Spurs Wallace would be a 10 times (did I say 10..... 1000) better fit.
on offense they provide a compareable impact, but on defense Wallace is so much better. Wallace has the potential to become a defender like Bruce, but with offense.(ok, minus the 3pt shooting)
Wallace is younger and (most important) in term of work ethic and intangibles Wallace seems to be just the opposite of Maggette. (in other words: Spurs material).
I bet, Wallace would love to be a Spur. he would take the spot of Bruce next year and if he resigns, he could be the starting SF for the next 8 years.
If we were going to get Gerald Wallace, I'm sure he would have been part of a larger deal with Charlotte & they would have waited in the Ely deal.
Agreed. Wallace is a pipe-dream. As is Nocioni.
I think Nocioni may be had in a S&T this summer. Maybe.
Agreed. I was thinking about that the other day. Why didn't the Spurs swing a bigger deal to nab Wallace? I'm sure they asked and were quickly rejected. Fact is that Adam Morrison has been sucking lately and Wallace is playing like a beast. While Morrison might be the future of their small forward position by popular opinion I think Wallace is starting his own campaign to the contrary.
One thing most people want out of this "small forward of the future" is a guy that is long and athletic but also somebody that can steal time at the 4. Wallace did so last year with the flurry of injuries to Emeka Okafor and Sean May. But he didn't like it one bit and really wants nothing to do with it again. Frankly, while I think Wallace is the ideal choice of any trade possibilities he might not be THAT kind of guy (your 3/4 kind of guy).
The Spurs should do their best to swing one of these three guys (Wallace, Maggette, Pietrus) and probably in that order (obviously depending on what it would take to get them). As far as I'm concerned Beno and either Barry of Finley are the most disposable "scraps". In a deal for Walace I'd send Butler too and quite possibly our first rounder.
During the offseason the Spurs need to seriously consider resigning Linton Johnson III though. The guy has been putting up some good numbers with the Hornets the last 2 years. Hes highly motivated to rebound, plays defense and best of all: he'll be extremely cheap. Linton had 12 and 4 last night in 19 mins against the Kings and played the predominance of his minutes at the PF position.
Imagine next season if the Spurs had Bowen/Wallace or Maggette or Pietrus/LJ III at their SF position? No more Finley at PF small ball. They'd be deep enough to avoid it and scary as it is, it's very probable and not a pipe dream.
To some team, yes, but what would the Spurs have to offer the Bulls?
You think a deal like a developmental center (Butler) and a 3pt specialist with an expiring contract (Barry) would be enough to get him?
I think Scola would be the centerpiece of the deal.
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