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That's a stretch Dirk. Nobody (not even the Mavs players) could ever mistake an arena that houses multiple Larry O'Briens as the Mavs home. That would be preposterous!
Too bad it's an arena, not a stadium. And I bet you all in Dallas wish the Mavericks would've learned to win at the American Airlines Arena (Miami) last June.
But, we all know all they have to show is advancing past the 2nd round and winning a Western Conference Championship.
How about getting owned and knocked to the floor by 36-year old Alonzo Mourning? Or how about 37-year old Gary Payton's big shot in Game 3?
Surely the young, athletic Mavericks and they're lucky jumpshots could beat such an old team, right? No, but I guess they have to fall back to brag on beating the Spurs because they couldn't beat another team when it really counted, in the Finals.
Dallas Mavs' fans love to hide their pain by talking about how they beat the Spurs. It's funny.
That's a stretch Dirk. Nobody (not even the Mavs players) could ever mistake an arena that houses multiple Larry O'Briens as the Mavs home. That would be preposterous!
Mavs won 2 out of 3 in Dallas last year in the playoffs against San Antonio
Mavs won 2 out of 4 in San Antonio last year in the playoffs against San Antonio. I think Dallas would rather have home court.
Last year was last year. This year you wont even give us any kind of a scare. We will sweep you guys and end your team (assuming you face us) the same kind of way the Pistons did it to LA 3 years ago!
Perhaps, who knows...
It will surely not change the fact that some of you mavs fans have no class at all and keep trolling this good board. Must be all that build up frustration during the past couple of years?
Mavs won 2 out of 3 in Dallas last year in the playoffs against San Antonio
Mavs won 2 out of 4 in San Antonio last year in the playoffs against San Antonio. I think Dallas would rather have home court.
I don't think that the Spurs are going to catch the Mavs, so thats sort of a mute point.
Perhaps, who knows...
It will surely not change the fact that some of you mavs fans have no class at all and keep trolling this good board. Must be all that build up frustration during the past couple of years?
Three things. Your team winning doesn't effect class level at all; I will keep coming to this board because its a great place to talk (type) basketball; and finally, its not a few years of frustration, its a few decades.
Decades implies 'several' and your franchise has only been around for two decades, so let's not exaggerate. Next thing you know mavfan will be comparing their suffering to the 86 years of Red Sox futility experienced by Boston fans (it's been DECADES of frustration!)
Second... I don't for a second believe that mavfans are frustrated by "a few decades" of losing. I few seasons, max. I bet most of the mavfans here don't even know who your owner was before Mark Cuban. And their lack of long-term knowledge about the NBA and particularly their team shows it.
The only team Dallas fans should be frustrated about is the Rangers. Oh, but wait... I forgot that since they have only won 1 playoff game in their entire MLB existence, you probably don't realize who they are. But once they start winning, I am sure you and others will hop on the bandwagon and talk about "a few decades" of frustration. Spare me!
WGAF? If the Spurs are playing their game by the playoffs they'll beat everybody. If they aren't they won't beat anyone even with home court.
And to this day, the sum of these victories (including last year's series against the Spurs) represent the single greatest achievement in the history of the Mavericks organization. At first I didn't understand why you were so excited about it but I get it now.
Why should there be love for the Mavs? This isn't a Mavs board...respect, sure, but plenty of people here respect the fact that the Mavs have been playing well. Doesn't mean they have to convert to become Dallas fans.
Decades implies 'several' and your franchise has only been around for two decades, so let's not exaggerate. Next thing you know mavfan will be comparing their suffering to the 86 years of Red Sox futility experienced by Boston fans (it's been DECADES of frustration!)
When you lived through some of those 9-12 win seasons ... It seems like DECADES ... My bad.
As for past owners ... I try very hard not to remmeber some of them (an ex-presidential candidate comes to mind ... Which I wish didn't ... THANKS ALOT)
As for the Rangers .... They stick, but there always seems to be optimism around the "latest pitching prospect"
Now my favorate teams seem to be doing well ... in general. Cards in B-Ball won it all (Lived there for ten years after the military), on the other hand the Blues are stinking it up in Hockey. The Mavs are doing well (Lived here for the last 15 yrs, started watching them in the "lean years"), and the Chargers seem to be on the right track in the NFL (Grew up in the OC .... Back then it was just called Orange County).
So really I don't have much to be frustated about
ya know what....im getting tired of saying it but someone's gotta do it...you sir, are an idiot
Last year was last year. This year you wont even give us any kind of a scare. We will sweep you guys and end your team (assuming you face us) the same kind of way the Pistons did it to LA 3 years ago!
If I remember correctly, SA ended the Lakers' run in 2003. The next year was just a wild thrown together bunch who thought they could get it done with 4 stars and 0 support.
And also, the Mavs have 1 star, with a bunch of other guys who only look like great players because they make a bunch of jump shots. And just like they learned in the Finals, jump shots don't always fall.
The Mavs = The Suns jump shooting run-and-gun playoff elimination team. The only difference, Dirk is a really good shooter and can make most of his shots fall the majority of the time (Too bad not when it counts).
I can understand and appreciate the *no love* coming from Spurs fans but you really believe everything you just wrote? You really believe that JHO, while certainly not a superstar, is not gradually becoming a star in his own right? You think a former All-Star like Stackhouse is just a shooter who only looks good because of Dirk? There have been several games this season where Dirk has deferred to his teammates and they've gotten it done. You still believe the mavs don't play defense and are just like the Suns? Explain why this is the case, I'd love to hear it. And to talk about Dirk as the only difference between the Mavs and Suns while leaving out any discussion of the Suns' three All-Stars, particularly Nash and Amare is laughable.
I too can understand the "no love" thing. I know that deep down in the depths of their B-Ball hearts, when they saw that the Mavs won those games ... They smiled
It may have been done with the lights out and doors closed, but it was there.
As Bruno pointed out though, its the Jazz that the Spurs have to come to grips with before the season ends.
Last edited by Dalhoop; 02-18-2007 at 02:19 PM. Reason: I don't have a habit of proof reading
Really? Houston + Yao got smoked by 40 points in game 7 2 years ago in the playoffs by Dallas...and this year's Dallas is twice as good as that team was. The Rockets are about the same.
The Rockets have no shot. T-Mac is a much worse player when Yao is on the court. Everyone is. Yao just doesn't really fit in. Too big, slow, and clumsy. Yes, he has great numbers, but his "great" numbers hurt everyone elses numbers. T-Mac will go to averaging about 15 PPG once Yao comes back.
Oh sweet lord
Josh Howard is a good player, but not great. He only made the All Star team because of injuries this year. Otherwise, he would not be on. And plus, what he's most known for is his timeout last year in Game 5 of the Finals.
Dirk has done 90% of the work for his team this year, which is mostly jump shooting. He is an exceptional shooter. If he can get those to fall in the Finals (which they didn't in Games 3-6 of the Finals last year), then maybe Dallas can be the champions.
Nash has done just about the same for his team, 90% of the work.
The rest of the guys (Howard, Stackhouse, Terry, Amare, Marion) are only good when their leaders are on the floor. Amare used to be dominant, not anymore. That explains the 3 straight losses for Phoenix. Dallas is a good team, but they are not brilliant or championship caliber. I see last year as the only chance they had, and it will be very hard for them to get back to the Finals this year. They haven't improved much from last year, they are doing all the same things they did vs SA.
When a squad as good as Dallas was last year can't win the Finals, there's not much else you can do to improve. They are about the same as the Sacramento Kings in 2002. Very, very good, but eliminated in the playoffs by veteran power or young player mistakes, oh and Dirk missing quite possible the biggest free throw of his career and cracking under pressure didn't help either, especially when the NBA is a league where one call, one bounce, one free throw can shift the momentum in a series.
1. Josh Howard may have only made the All-Star game because of injuries but it's not like that's the only reason he would've been shut out in the first place. Just about every analyst and even lots of Spurs fans on this board think he deserves to be an All-Star but they also point out that the West is stacked at the forward position.
2. Don't be ridiculous, just like we don't only remember Ginobili for fouling Dirk in Game seven or for turning the ball over in the Kings game last year and we don't remember Webber for calling a non-existent timout in college, it's not like people see Josh Howard and think solely about the timeout from last season.
3. There's this thing call nba.com where they have the game stats for a team. If you think Dirk has done 90% of the work for the Mavs because of his jumpshooting, you might want to visit that site sometime. There are many nights where Dirk isn't the main guy and guys like Terry or JHo end up as the high-scorers of the night. Damp and Diop help tremendously in pulling down the boards and dishing them back out and Devean George plays good defense and takes good shots.
4. It's ridiculous to *see* that last year was our only opportunity when the Mavericks are relatively young compared to the Spurs and to the Suns' one main component, Nash. It's not like the Spurs were written off the season after winning a championship when they failed to secure a BTB trophy.
5. The Kings back in 2002 were a run and gun team so no, the Mavericks of today are not like the Kings of 2002. Do you even watch other teams or is it just the Spurs? Your breakdown of a team is horrible. The Mavericks have actually gotten better with the addition of Devean George and Josh Howard has improved in points, free throw % and even rebounds. The most important improvement this year is that the Mavericks are still improving on defense and learning how to close out games, something they haven't necessarily done in previous years.
If you just hate the Mavericks, then just say you hate the Mavericks but don't pretend like you know what you're talking about to mask that hatred.
wow TWICE in one thread...u sir, are an idiot
We love the Mavs :
and we love the spurs!
What a great find!
those NBA players are the stupidest ing chopjobs.
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