NBA Pointless All-Star Weekend

[GrandeDavid]

They have beaten the Pistons and the Wizards, two of the better teams in that stretch of games, that is all that matters. The Orlando loss was a fluke loss on a fluke dunk by a fluke player. The Heat won't come out of the East this year, so the Miami loss isn't a big deal. Up next for the rest of February: The ever so tough schedule of the Nuggets, Sonics, Hawks, and Raptors.

I wouldn't exactly call Dwight Howard a fluke!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I wouldn't exactly call Dwight Howard a fluke!

I wouldn't exactly call jeffdrums22 a sports genius.

[jeffdrums22]

It might have been a fluke loss, and the dunk, while spectacular, could arguably qualify as a fluke as well.

Your characterization of Dwight Howard as a fluke player, however, is precisely the thing that makes people reject must of what you post.

To call Dwight Howard a "fluke" is patently ridiculous. He's a fluke only in the sense that big men blessed with such exceptional athleticism don't come around very often and, thus, he's decidedly an exception to the rule -- i.e, a fluke. Dwight Howard is legitimately an All-Star caliber player and will likely be so for the next 10-12 years.

Calling him a fluke is more than disrepectful and ignorant; it's completely absurd.

There is a difference between what a player is now, and what a player will become in the future. Just ask the unheard of players before the Spurs series such as Josh Howard and Jason Terry. Who really even knew who those guys were before the Spurs series last year?

The reason I called Howard and his dunk a fluke is because of how much hype he got for making one dunk. He isn't a brilliant or great player right now, at least. I don't know about the future. It makes me mad when lucky shots or dunks get overblown to mean that a franchise is on the decline - that dunk was used to further the commentators' point that the Spurs are on the decline, when it had nothing to do with SA struggles.

What happened to Howard after that dunk? The Magic lose to the Nets by 15 the next night. That's a laugh.

[FromWayDowntown]

There is a difference between what a player is now, and what a player will become in the future. Just ask the unheard of players before the Spurs series such as Josh Howard and Jason Terry. Who really even knew who those guys were before the Spurs series last year?

The reason I called Howard and his dunk a fluke is because of how much hype he got for making one dunk. He isn't a brilliant or great player right now, at least. I don't know about the future. It makes me mad when lucky shots or dunks get overblown to mean that a franchise is on the decline - that dunk was used to further the commentators' point that the Spurs are on the decline, when it had nothing to do with SA struggles.

What happened to Howard after that dunk? The Magic lose to the Nets by 15 the next night. That's a laugh.

Nail. Coffin.

Josh Howard and Jason Terry might have been unknown to you, but anyone who watches NBA basketball -- and particularly Spurs basketball -- has known about them for as long as they've been in the league and appreciated their games. They were hardly "unheard of," unless you're talking about people who don't actually bother to watch basketball games -- a conclusion about you that your "analysis" is firmly cementing.

Notwithstanding that inane point, the argument about Dwight Howard is asinine. Howard is a dynamic player right now -- and he's just getting better. He's just 21 years old and he's already a legitimate all-star. He's averaged a double-double every year he's been in the league and he's shot over 52% in each of those seasons while sending back about a shot and a half every night. He averaged 16 and 12.5 at age 20. There are a lot of things one could call Dwight Howard, but fluke isn't one of them.

And in that New Jersey game that you're so proud to cite, Howard's team lost, but he rolled up 25 points, 12 rebounds, and 4 blocks. Fluke, indeed.

[Extra Stout]

The reason I called Howard and his dunk a fluke is because of how much hype he got for making one dunk. He isn't a brilliant or great player right now, at least.

I don't watch NBA basketball other than Spurs games.

[hitmanyr2k]

I'm watching the '88 All-star game on NBATV right now and the difference between then and now is night and day. They're actually competing and playing defense in the '88 game. The players are even jawing with the refs over calls

It just shows how dull the all-star game is today.

[ChumpDumper]

Tim Duncan catches up with Anaheim's
Jawad Williams prior to the game.

Too bad Jawad doesn't defend or rebound.

[LEONARD]

The Orlando loss was a fluke loss on a fluke dunk by a fluke player.

Just ask the unheard of players before the Spurs series such as Josh Howard and Jason Terry. Who really even knew who those guys were before the Spurs series last year?

The reason I called Howard and his dunk a fluke is because of how much hype he got for making one dunk. He isn't a brilliant or great player right now, at least.

Holy $hit...I'm officially nominating this guy as the biggest f'ing moron on this site...

Jeff...notice that SPURS FANS are ripping on you...that's not a good sign

[silk]

Actually i think jeff seems more like a casual mavs fan than a spurstalk poster lool

[Kori Ellis]

Sometimes I think jeffdrums must be a fake poster for as bad as his basketball takes are.

How can anyone call Dwight Howard a fluke and say that he's just overhyped because of one dunk on the Spurs? He is the best young big man in the game. He's a monster on the glass and is a double-double machine. Out of all the young NBA guys, he's like the dream player you should want to build your franchise around.

[AFBlue]

Sometimes I think jeffdrums must be a fake poster for as bad as his basketball takes are.

How can anyone call Dwight Howard a fluke and say that he's just overhyped because of one dunk on the Spurs? He is the best young big man in the game. He's a monster on the glass and is a double-double machine. Out of all the young NBA guys, he's like the dream player you should want to build your franchise around.

To piggyback...he's currently 3rd in the NBA for Rebounds Per Game and is averaging almost 18 points a game. That's great, maybe even brilliant....

[johnpaulwall21]

Tim Duncan catches up with Anaheim's
Jawad Williams prior to the game.

Too bad Jawad doesn't defend or rebound.

who da is jawad williams?

[ChumpDumper]

He played in the Spurs' training camp last season. Good long small forward size and decent offense, but as I said above doesn't play like a Spur. Averaging 19.6 points and 4.5 rebounds for the Anaheim Arsenal.

[jeffdrums22]

Sometimes I think jeffdrums must be a fake poster for as bad as his basketball takes are.

How can anyone call Dwight Howard a fluke and say that he's just overhyped because of one dunk on the Spurs? He is the best young big man in the game. He's a monster on the glass and is a double-double machine. Out of all the young NBA guys, he's like the dream player you should want to build your franchise around.

Oh, I get it now. You guys are into the trendy NBA form of being great. Being really great as an individual, but not doing much for your team as a whole. That's mediocrity to me. To be great you have to make your whole team great. Making the highlight reel doesn't qualify as greatness.

But, since everyone here has to post the same opinions', I guess I shouldn't talk.

[samikeyp]

The fact that Howard is able to put up the stats he does despite not having a great supporting cast to work with makes him great. All the other teams focus defensively is solely on that young kid and he is able to deliver in spite of that. He can't be blamed that he doesn't have superstar talent at every position around him. He has made Orlando better then they were prior to his arrival and that is a sign of greatness.

[sprrs]

Oh, I get it now. You guys are into the trendy NBA form of being great. Being really great as an individual, but not doing much for your team as a whole. That's mediocrity to me. To be great you have to make your whole team great. Making the highlight reel doesn't qualify as greatness.

But, since everyone here has to post the same opinions', I guess I shouldn't talk.

The Cavs were mediocre, if that, during Lebron's first few years with them because he had a lousy supporting cast......does that make him a fluke player?

Admit you were wrong and stop trying to cover up your mistakes.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Oh, I get it now. You guys are into the trendy NBA form of being great. Being really great as an individual, but not doing much for your team as a whole. That's mediocrity to me. To be great you have to make your whole team great. Making the highlight reel doesn't qualify as greatness.

But, since everyone here has to post the same opinions', I guess I shouldn't talk.

So you would like free reign to post your opinions without having anybody attempt to counter yours with their own?

Got it.

[FromWayDowntown]

Oh, I get it now. You guys are into the trendy NBA form of being great. Being really great as an individual, but not doing much for your team as a whole.

So, now I'm curious. Who is truly great? If great players are only those guys who play on teams that win les -- apparently the case -- then are you telling me that David Robinson wasn't a great player before 1999? That Karl Malone, John Stockton, and Charles Barkley were all mediocre players? That Jordan was really nothing until 1991? Because you said:

That's mediocrity to me. To be great you have to make your whole team great. Making the highlight reel doesn't qualify as greatness.

So what is it then? Are only those who put up great numbers and happen to be blessed to be on teams that win les worthy of adulation as stars in the NBA? Are all other players who put up good numbers and play spectacularly just "flukes" as you've previously described Dwight Howard? You've honestly made me curious.

I'm truly, truly baffled how anyone can watch NBA basketball with any degree of interest and not understand that Dwight Howard is an immensely talented and highly productive player who is already among the best players in the game at the moment.

[LEONARD]

Oh, I get it now. You guys are into the trendy NBA form of being great. Being really great as an individual, but not doing much for your team as a whole. That's mediocrity to me. To be great you have to make your whole team great. Making the highlight reel doesn't qualify as greatness.

But, since everyone here has to post the same opinions', I guess I shouldn't talk.

...saddlebags!!

[Extra Stout]

Oh, I get it now. You guys are into the trendy NBA form of being great. Being really great as an individual, but not doing much for your team as a whole. That's mediocrity to me. To be great you have to make your whole team great. Making the highlight reel doesn't qualify as greatness.

But, since everyone here has to post the same opinions', I guess I shouldn't talk.

So any player who doesn't singlehandedly make his team great is a mediocre, "fluke player." That is just brilliant.

Nobody as stupid as you should be allowed to root for the Spurs. The Lakers sound about right for you, or maybe the Heat.