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expections are atleast the afc championship game
anything else is wrong
chargers will go 12-4 at the worse
expections are atleast the afc championship game
anything else is wrong
Nice hire Norv lmao that is all they could get. Great plan chargers.
"Continuity" as much as possible.
I'm liking it now that the plan has been explained.
Norv is the one who implemented the offense Cam Cameron used for the last 5 seasons. Except we all know that MartyBall repressed that offense for 4 of those 5 seasons. Once opened up, recordbreaking.
So Norv will simply continue last years offense. D Co-or will be longtime D coach Tedd Cotrell. It will almost be like two head coaches, Norv overseeing the O and Tedd the D.
Players will have the same playbook, no need to learn new system. Many Chargers players interviewed said happy for that.
Plus we got linebackers coach Ron Rivera from the Bears.
Bring on 2007-8 season.
Bottom line this won't be settled until the '07-8 playoffs.
how the can you expect to be somewhere you haven't been since 95?
Exactly."Continuity" as much as possible.
I'm liking it now that the plan has been explained.
Norv is the one who implemented the offense Cam Cameron used for the last 5 seasons. Except we all know that MartyBall repressed that offense for 4 of those 5 seasons. Once opened up, recordbreaking.
So Norv will simply continue last years offense. D Co-or will be longtime D coach Tedd Cotrell. It will almost be like two head coaches, Norv overseeing the O and Tedd the D.
Players will have the same playbook, no need to learn new system. Many Chargers players interviewed said happy for that.
Plus we got linebackers coach Ron Rivera from the Bears.
Bottom line this won't be settled until the '07-8 playoffs.
Everyone talking on the hiring of Turner doesn't see the whole picture. The dude orchestrated this offensive scheme they've been running. Ron Rivera was a steal.
Norv inherited a great team. They should have a wicked offence with Norv at the helm. Little things like game management might kill them.
Marty would have run LT into the ground in a few years like he has every other running back who's played for him. LT just got his NFL life extended.
You're right about that . ing Martyball. But I can't believe they also got Rivera as well! What made him want to degrade to a lower post?
The way I heard the Rivera story.
Bears offered Rivera an extension. Rivera wanted to interview for a head coaching job. Rivera interviewed and didn't get one, so then he went back to the Bears and said, hey, I want that extension now and a huge raise. Bears said take a hike.
So if Norv goes 12-4 and loses the first playoff game, he stays?
Jerry Rice: Norv Turner 'Had No Control' Over Raiders
Add Jerry Rice to the long list of people who think the San Diego Chargers' decision to hire Norv Turner was a bad idea. On a radio appearance this morning, Rice said Turner was a good offensive coordinator, but that he lacked the motivational skills necessary to be a head coach.
"He could not motivate the players," Rice said. "He had no control."
Rice played for the Raiders in both of Turner's years as the team's head coach, and it's possible that he has an ax to grind: Turner kept Rice planted firmly on the bench in 2004, leading to Rice leaving for Seattle after four games. Still, in all of his stops Rice was known for showing respect to his coaches, and a coach who gets called out by Rice probably leaves something to be desired.
At this point, does anyone think the Chargers made the right move by firing Schottenheimer and hiring Turner? Anyone other than A.J. Smith, I mean?
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The Chargers hired Turner because they are cheap.
Turner is basically coming into the exact same situations Bellichick and Shanahan came into. Both Bellichick and Shanahan were headcoaches for ty teams that compiled ty records. When each was finally given a team with talent, their previous ty records meant nothing. You of all people should recognize this Slinkyman, you are a Broncos fan correct? What were your feelings when Shanahan and his stellar record were hired to coach your team?
If Turner was such an awful coach, how come neither of the teams he's left have gotten any better, and only gotten worse? At some point, you have to realize that a coach can't win without talent on the roster. Turner finally has it, and he has it with an offensive scheme he created. The Chargers will be scary good next year.
Actually, Rice was only there for Turner's first year. So Rice is basing this off of four whole games?
Wait...what? The same Cottrell who needed Foge Fazio(Tice called him a defensive consultant) to come in off the street and help him out in Minny?
The guy was a flat out disaster in Minny. He couldn't communicate to his players, had horrible game plans(Smoot singled on S. Smith), etc. He leaves and they improve dramatically.
How did he do with the Jets? Face it, they guy had a good run in Buffalo and that's about it. It helps that Wade was his boss, don't you think?
Do the best 3-4 guys usually not have a coaching job the year prior?
Last edited by DisgruntledLionFan#54,927; 02-20-2007 at 07:57 PM.
i can't believe you just compared norv turner to mike shanahan and bill belichick.
first it's not the same situation, mike and bill took over teams that weren't playoff teams and within 2 years made them into super bowl contenders. The chargers are already contenders at this point.
second shanahan didn't even get a shot with the raiders as he was fired after 4 games in his 2nd season there while norv was with washington for a long time and they sucked every year he was there. That raiders team he coached was only 2 years removed from the superbowl so it's not like they didn't have talent on the roster.
And both Belichick and Shanny had success in their second stints, not their third.
TSA, you'll be calling for Cottrell's head by mid-season. The guy plays it safe and rarely, if ever, blitzes. Add that to a weak secondary, as of now, and you have a recipe for disaster.
You'll learn to loathe the "bend, but don't break" mantra...
I don't like the hire, but after looking at their options, it seems this is the best they could have done.
Having said that, while the Chargers were 14-2 this last season, they did have some close games and some comeback games. Those games were won by coaching and good play calling. I don't think Norv can do that.
We will certainly see, but my early prediction is 11-5 with a first round playoff loss.
Ya'll be riding the Chargers bandwagon AGAIN next season. And this time, we won't have the playoff curse.
No curse, just Norv. That is curse enough.
Those games were won by Rivers and Tomlinson.
Shannahan had one season with the Raiders. ONE. Turner has failed in multiple seasons with multiple teams. The Chargers shoud still be a good team next year. But with a First place schedule and the turnover of almost the entire coaching staff, they shouldn't be in the championship hunt.
Not a curse my man. Just a bad franchise history.
Did they turn over half their roster or something? This team is still a Championship contender, and the hiring of Turner, Cottrell, and Rivera while still keeping the continuity of the offensive and defensive systems is quite incredible. The Chargers could have quite possibly upgraded. We'll have to wait and see.
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