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    ^when did the FBI and ATF become "military"?

    wHEN THEY USED TANKS.

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    wHEN THEY USED TANKS.
    By that logic, nearly all police are military.



    (^btw, your Caps Lock is on)

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    Yeah and Chump, if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his
    butt.

    Hind sight is 20/20. If they God had just given us bad weather
    that day and ground all flights in the East those people would
    still be alive.
    Or if Bush had taken the CIA's warnings more seriously....

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    XZ still spreading the bull that 9/11 was unstoppable.

    The Exec is impeachably guilty of derelection of NatSec duty. dubya/ head/Condi's inaction ALLOWED 9/11 to happen.

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    yes 911 was unstoppable... what don't you understand about islamic terrorism.. they will strike and strike and strike.. and strike....

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    yes 911 was unstoppable... what don't you understand about islamic terrorism.. they will strike and strike and strike.. and strike....
    So given that, and a briefing on your desk en led "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" a full month before 9/11 with stated evidence of airplane hijack planning, wouldn't it have been a good idea to consider some kind of preventive action concerning airport/airline security?

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    what kind of airline security... trying getting anything type of profiling past the ACLU pre 911... I could just see the left lose it over this saying that this adminstration is now starting a war against peaceful muslim men...

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    yeah and bin laden is still planning to strike the US tonight, tomorrow sometime soon... what are we to do.. shut down the economy, seal the borders, restrict airline travel to only white folks.... you can sit there and quarterback this after the fact... but they can attack us in so many ways... this is still after all a open country .. isn't it?

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    what kind of airline security... trying getting anything type of profiling past the ACLU pre 911... I could just see the left lose it over this saying that this adminstration is now starting a war against peaceful muslim men...
    Actually, nine of the 19 hijackers were flagged for additional scrutiny on 9/11 by the security system put in place in 1998. Now if airport security had been ordered to take the flagging of nine possibily su ious characters trying to board four flights simultaneously as a signal to detain them all for questioning, could things have possibly gone differently on 9/11?

    Be honest.

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    so what system was in place to know that 9 possible suspect were trying to board the different flights on the same day... other than someone tracking each suspect and then coordinating with other agencies.. which at the time were not even sharing information.. yeah alot could have been done... but this guys posed no great risk to airline safety other than carrying a box cutter.. or saying there was a bomb on board the plane... what the is anyone going to do against that.. there is nothing the govt. could have done against a idle threat.... pre 911

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    so what system was in place to know that 9 possible suspect were trying to board the different flights on the same day
    Gee, weren't at least a couple of them getting on the SAME plane?

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    XZ still spreading the bull that 9/11 was unstoppable.

    The Exec is impeachably guilty of derelection of NatSec duty. dubya/ head/Condi's inaction ALLOWED 9/11 to happen.

    Damn boutons, if Bush goes to potty and forgets to flush
    according to you he should be impeached for polluting.

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    Forget about stopping them on the day of the flight, too late, typical red herring to distract from the Exec dereliction of duty in the months before 9/11.

    The Exec totally ignored all the chatter, "system blinking red", "planes into buildings".

    NSA, FBI, FAA, US marshalls, state and local police were NOT given any special instructions nor put on high alert, as the 9/11 Commission pointed out.

    al-Quaida and the inflammatory Israel/Palestine situations were totally ignored by dubya/ head/condi from 20 Jan until 9/11.

    OBL totally out-foxed the somnolent Exec and its $50B/year of NatSec apparatus.

    The only accomplishment, and primary objective of taking office, of the Repugs before 9/11 was to ram through the most unfair tax cuts in the US history. Taxes cut, they essentially went on vacation,since the Repugs were never interested in actually governing, only in raping the US govt for their own purposes.

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    ^when did the FBI and ATF become "military"?
    The FBI and ATF are not, it was the M1A1 Abrams tank from Fort Hood that was military, were civilians operating it? who knows, I don't think it matters. Here's a link from the ACLU's website that claims that the Waco assault included military, they don't go into detail, and they put it in the last paragraph:
    http://www.aclu.org/natsec/gen/14395prs19991008.html
    The HRT (hostage rescue team) and Delta Force were also there:
    http://www.cnn.com/US/9908/26/fbi.waco.03/
    aclu and cnn, credibility at its finest.

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    chump... but I thought the left believes that the govt. was behind 911 .. so what gives..

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    chump... but I thought the left believes that the govt. was behind 911 .. so what gives..
    Nice dodge by excellent use of horrendously-misguided generalization.

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    chump... but I thought the left believes that the govt. was behind 911 .. so what gives..
    You're wrong, that's what.

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