TMac on the Mavs - "Those guys are dirty"

[Amarelooms]

WGAS what T-mac thinks....

[FromWayDowntown]

There seems to be a tendancy to stick his foot under shooters, whether he's doing it on purpose or not. It's not like it's just come up one time in the past from one player. Who knows if he really is doing it on purpose...

You'd think that if there was some discernable intent in anything that Bruce Bowen does, or if there was an immediate threat to any player based on tactics that are beyond the realm of basketball play, the NBA would have done something about it -- something tangible and concrete. I'm sure that Bruce Bowen is among the most closely-watched players in the league because of the allegations spewed about him, but curiously, despite those allegations, the league has done nothing about his play. That suggests to me that the league doesn't think anything that Bruce does is a problem. Stu Jackson called Bowen one time, without consulting the Spurs, and then only because Isiah Thomas had ed and whined about Bruce. And even then, the message wasn't penal at all -- it was a simple admonition to watch his feet more carefullly. Unless you're convinced that the league somehow desires to protect Bruce Bowen more than it's superstars, there's no real logic in saying that what he does is questionable.

and yes, Bowen is the type of player that everybody loves to hate when he's not on their team...

Frankly, I think I'd still appreciate Bowen if he played elsewhere, because I appreciate guys who work hard, play the game hard, and do things exceedingly well.

[LEONARD]

Only Bruce knows his intent...reviewing film of the incidents won't tell anybody anything, so how could the league do anything about it other than mention it to him?

It could be a bad habit or occasional bad luck because he just gets tight up on people when he's defending.

Or he may be thinking "oops, did my foot get a little too far under him?" *wink* *wink*

Who knows...he's a great defender regardless. I'm not taking a position on the issue...I just used the do ented allegations against him as an example of what I would consider dirty (ie, intending to hurt someone).

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Man, I thought the ACLU were uppity.

[lefty]

[LEONARD]

Thanks for the contribution...

[lefty]

Thanks for the contribution...

U don't get the message ; Mavs are gay

[LEONARD]

U don't get the message ; Mavs are gay

Solid point...thank you...

[big3bigD]

Tim Hardaway and John Amechi are gay

[mabber]

It's funny how Mavericks fans have gone from lambasting Bruce Bowen for being "dirty," to celebrating the fact that someone calls their team "dirty."

It's even funnier that some of you care what T-Mac says. The dude has never even been on a team that has won a playoff series before

[lefty]

It's even funnier that some of you care what T-Mac says. The dude has never even been on a team that has won a playoff series before

True ; maybe he is still pissed off by the fact that Dallas beat his team in the first round in 2005 (Dallas was led 2-0, but prevailed) ; I think the Rockets could have beaten Phoenix that year , because T-Mac and co had their numbers during the regular season ; that's what T-mac must be upset about...

[LEONARD]

It's even funnier that some of you care what T-Mac says.

I took what he said as a compliment... *shrug*

[LEONARD]

True ; maybe he is still pissed off by the fact that Dallas beat his team in the first round in 2005 (Dallas was led 2-0, but prevailed) ; I think the Rockets could have beaten Phoenix that year , because T-Mac and co had their numbers during the regular season ; that's what T-mac must be upset about...

Why is everyone acting like he's upset about anything???

I respect that; that’s why they’re so good. They find a way.

[lefty]

Why is everyone acting like he's upset about anything???

I respect that; that’s why they’re so good. They find a way.

Exactly

[mabber]

I took what he said as a compliment... *shrug*

Of course it's a compliment, but it's coming from a guy that has never been on a team that's even won a playoff series. Now if it came from Tim Duncan or someone that's won a championship then it would be really cool.

[FromWayDowntown]

It's even funnier that some of you care what T-Mac says. The dude has never even been on a team that has won a playoff series before

Actually, I didn't respond to anything that McGrady said. I responded to Mavs' fans caring about what Tracy McGrady said, noting my amusement that Mavericks fans suddenly aren't so concerned about players being labeled dirty, despite years of ing about Bruce Bowen for that.

Good try, though.

[Shank]

But when McGrady says "And I respect that; that’s why they’re so good. They find a way", do you think he'd say the same about Bowen's tactics? That he respects him for doing his little tricks? I doubt it.

[FromWayDowntown]

But when McGrady says "And I respect that; that’s why they’re so good. They find a way", do you think he'd say the same about Bowen's tactics? That he respects him for doing his little tricks? I doubt it.

Actually, like Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady hasn't (as far as I know) ever had anything bad to say about Bruce Bowen and his "tactics." So, yeah, I'd think that he does respect Bruce Bowen in the same way.

[Purple & Gold]

Bowen is a dirty player period. I've never seen a move like that before and he did it twice. Messing with ankles is as dirty as it gets.

[ponky]

Actually, I didn't respond to anything that McGrady said. I responded to Mavs' fans caring about what Tracy McGrady said, noting my amusement that Mavericks fans suddenly aren't so concerned about players being labeled dirty, despite years of ing about Bruce Bowen for that.

Good try, though.

actually, i'm amused that you care so much about what mavs fans think regarding t-mac's comments...you care so much that you've littered the thread with remarks and proceeded to inject baldy in the discussion and try so hard to put mavs fans in their place

[cornbread]

McGrady on Bowen after a game in 2005.


McGrady credited the Spurs’ Bruce Bowen, who guarded him most of the night, in helping stop the surge.

“Facing a guy like Bruce Bowen, you just have to try to block everything out and concentrate on the moment,” McGrady said. “That’s a tough night of work. He’s one of the premier defenders in this league and on a fresh night, he’s going to make your night miserable.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10091498/

about Bowen all you want but please don't make up.

[FromWayDowntown]

actually, i'm amused that you care so much about what mavs fans think regarding t-mac's comments...you care so much that you've littered the thread with remarks and proceeded to inject baldy in the discussion and try so hard to put mavs fans in their place

Like I say, I'm just amused by the sudden change of tenor.

Mostly, I'm bored right now and there's nothing in the Spurs forum that I care to discuss right now. I'm not entirely sure how I've "inject[ed] baldly" into the discussion. I've noted my amusement and refute responses that are either factually incorrect or otherwise misleading. Was I supposed to just skip over this and leave it solely for Mavs fans to author self-congratulatory posts?

But, if it comforts you somehow to think that I'm desperately seeking to make snide comments to Mavs fans, knock yourself out.

I think many of the Mavs fans who come here are alright, and I've certainly made no bones about my respect for the way the Mavericks play basketball.

[Purple & Gold]

about Bowen all you want but please don't make up.

I hope you're not talking about his leg sweeps. Cause that is on tape.

[ponky]

Actually, like Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady hasn't (as far as I know) ever had anything bad to say about Bruce Bowen and his "tactics." So, yeah, I'd think that he does respect Bruce Bowen in the same way.

So using your logic we can assume that because T-mac only had something to say about the officiating in the Finals series and he never had anything bad to say about the Spurs/Mavs series officiating, he was fine with the way that series turned out?

It's funny how you were amused about how Mavs fans cared about T-Mac's comments and then two Spurs fans (including yourself) cited his comments as examples of what he thinks regarding Bowen... as if we should care.

[cornbread]

I hope you're not talking about his leg sweeps. Cause that is on tape.

No, I was referring to McGrady's opinions on Bruce. Much like Kobe, McGrady has never felt the need to about Bowen. But don't let that stop you. Let the -fest continue.