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Could've had him as well.
Was the payroll slimmer for passing on Devin?A slimmer payroll was certainly worth it.
They chose to pay Finley $3M a year instead of giving that same money or less to Devin.
Could've had him as well.
Stop trying to confuse us with the facts, Kori.
Why do we need somebody who witnessed this stuff to tell us what went down when we can be perfectly happy just making up ourselves.
The Spurs became the first team in NBA history to lose a restricted free-agent who was only tendered a one-year deal. And then followed that up by not even offering Devin a training camp invite.
Olu Fatimabamimi, Charles Lee, Richard Belzer, Jared Reiner > Devin Brown.
Puro San Antonio.
yeah lets beat some more dead horses.
Oh well, at least ownership doesn't have to starve.
Better to beat dead horses than beat your meat.
His work ethic (talent is useless without work) as a Spur AND his back problems lessened his attractiveness.
Sitting out NBA for 3 months (a "blessing" delivered by the Spurs, among others) seems to have scared him into working (for now. we'll see after/if lands a big contract), and his back is holding up (for now).
Who's to say if he would have worked as hard for the Spurs without the sit-out as he has for the Hornets with the sit-out?
That's a big if.
It takes 2 parties to make a contract, and both SJax and Devin didn't play their end of he contract well (apart from how the Spurs played their end).
Trust me: when you get cut loose, you're INDUSTRIOUS in your next gig. Nothing like missing a raft of paychecks to adjust your at ude.
You don't need to hear much. Devin said it himself. If things didn't go the way they did, he probably woudln't work as hard as he does now. He said that very thing, so why do people keep acting as though keeping him automaticaly means that he would have developed into what he's doing now?
People need changes of scenery to make things work for them sometimes, and Devin Brown himself has acknowledged as much.
Devin had a horrible shooting night tonight (1-11) but was perfect from the line (5-5). Devin did however, play some good defense on Ray Allen and has been getting additional praise tonight.
Perhaps he could have worked harder here, or maybe something to do with Pop's reluctance to recognize and nurture young talent?
Excuse me, I guess I should have said US talent.
Maybe we should have stashed him somewhere, like in Pop's wine cellar.
I've always liked Devin & was sad to see him go. On the topic of most of the Spurs fan here, yeah, they are quite comical. Probably 85% of the people said "absolutely no" to the idea of Elson starting over Oberto earlier in the season. Well, we all know how that ended up
When Devin left, people here didn't question the move at all, passing it off as Devin as a "liability" and said he "took a step back". Well, we know how that's turning outI love seeing it though. Alot of blind Pop followers who refuse to accept the remote possibility that RC or Pop could ever in their lives make a mistake.
I would say that Pop has made just as many mistakes as he's made great choices.
it was in the press awhile ago
he said in the article that when he was here he was lazy
Hey,He was younger back them,He learned from his mistakes man,and besides ,he´s only human.
Practice? We talkin' 'bout practice. Practice!?!
I like D Brown and I´m happy he is doing good,but The thing is that AI would last a week under Pop´s coaching.
Practice? We talkin' 'bout practice. Practice!?!
I'm not sure about that one. Pop has a history of not taking any kind of excuses and cr@p from players and Devin got more playing time than I thought he would. If he really was late and Pop was not very pleased with his at ude, guaranteed he would not have any playing time.
From what I remember, the Jazz were willing to pay more for Devin than the Spurs because the Spurs were concerned about his back. We also have to remember that the Spurs also had interest in an injured Grant Hill years ago, and with DRob having back problems as well, I think it really came down to one thing and one thing only: Pop most likely didn't think Devin's back would hold up.
What I also liked about Devin was his defense. He played Kobe pretty good.
I have nba season pass and watched last night's game. He was horrible on o and merely ok on D.
If you want to search back, there's an E-N article I remember that came out when Devin was in summer league in 2004 talking about how he was flaky/late for practices, etc. Again, this was in 2004 - way before the Spurs made any decision about not keeping him in the summer of 2005.
Devin himself admits he wasn't a hard worker when he was here.
pretty sad that someone who was seen as lazy as Brown was could still straight up take Barry's spot as the 6th man and be a huge part of the Spurs rotation before the injury.
He'd have already taken all of Finley's minutes by now, lazy or not.
I don't necessarily think that the change of scenery was what got Devin working hard. Being without a job from the beginning of July to the end of December probably did the trick.
How could it have hurt the Spurs to invite Devin to training camp? You tell him if he's late to one practice or shows any signs of immaturity, he's cut.
Or how about at some point in December when it was already obvious that the Spurs' perimeter was too old? You don't bring Devin in for a 10-day contract to see if he has changed? That makes no sense. You risk nothing, while the reward could be getting a player who'd be in the rotation.
To me it never made any sense and still doesn't. As I said all along, just give him a look. A lot can change in a year and a half ... especially playing under Jerry Sloan and then getting traded and getting cut.
Devin would currently be the fourth best player on the team. Yet Spurs fans still make excuses for the front office in fumbling away a no risk opportunity to get a look at a player that might've helped.
Exactly
The lazy, out of shape, golf obsessed version of Devin Brown still beat out Brent Barry the last time he was with the Spurs. To not take a look at him for free earlier this year has to go down as one of the dumbest things I've seen this front office do.
I can live with the argument that the Spurs were justified in letting Devin go to Utah even though that was the first time in NBA history that a team lost a restricted free agent to a one-year contract offer. But to say the Spurs shouldn't have invited him to training camp this season or at least taken a look at him in December is crazy.
I think Devin signed a two year deal with Utah, after the first year he was traded to GS and they cut him. So it wasn't a 1-year offer that got him.Exactly
The lazy, out of shape, golf obsessed version of Devin Brown still beat out Brent Barry the last time he was with the Spurs. To not take a look at him for free earlier this year has to go down as one of the dumbest things I've seen this front office do.
I can live with the argument that the Spurs were justified in letting Devin go to Utah even though that was the first time in NBA history that a team lost a restricted free agent to a one-year contract offer. But to say the Spurs shouldn't have invited him to training camp this season or at least taken a look at him in December is crazy.
Still, you and I are in agreement.
The second year was only like 15% guaranteed. So yeah, it was basically a one-year deal with a team option for a second year. But like when Danny Ferry signed a similar contract with the Spurs, the second year was setup in a way that gave the contract high trade value.
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