All I know is that if Nash doesn't make at least one Finals appearance, history is going to look back at his MVPs and try to figure out WTF the voters were thinking.
This is why Shaq just gets on my nerves sometimes. He has a huge EGO yet he comes off petty and jealous seemingly when the mood strikes him. Like when ESPN interviewed him during the 2005 finals and he said he thought the games were boring and it would have been so much more exciting if his team was in it.
He is just frustrated that he is no longer the best player in the NBA and even the best player on his team. His time is up. The worst part for the Heat is they still have $80 million and 4 years left of O'neal left to go. Which means it is going to be difficult to build a team around Wade until he is gone. They are going to have to make some serious moves this summer to make that team better.
True and the Heat felt backed into a corner on that one. They knew they would get maybe 2 or 3 years of pretty dominant play out of him and then get stuck with at least 2 years of lousy play at a hefty price tag. However if they did not give Shaq that 5 year deal his EGO would have kicked in and probably walked so they felt they had no choice.
What does he mean by "tainted?"
By tainted he means that his ego was not fed.What does he mean by "tainted?"
Yeah, most of the time I actually enjoy Shaq cuz he's funny to me but he annoys the crap out of me in that he'll never give credit to anyone else...be it a player or a team(unless it's another player on his team). I realize he had to back his teammate (Wade) in being upset about what some of the Mavs said about giving away the finals but it's EXACTLY what he would have said.
Good ol Shaq back with his usual comments. I knew the NBA was missing something.
Robinson's rookie season, the Spurs had a 35-game improvement, Duncan's rookie season (with DRob returning from injury), the Spurs had a 36-game improvement.
Neither Robinson nor Duncan won the MVPs in those years.
There is nothing wrong with people who does not agree with Nash being the MVP that year, some may point to Shaq, others to Duncan.
I also do not believe a player like Duncan should be penalized by being consistently excellent with the same team, and does not create dramatic turnarounds.
But after all this talk, I believe Nash should have won the MVP in 2005 due to the weak crop of MVP candidates that year. In 2006, I believe it should have been somebody else, such as LeBron James.
Well, to be fair, they were rookies (rookies are rarely ROY and MVP the same season ; Wilt was roy and mvp the same year) ; Magic was the MVP in 1990 and Jordan in 1998 ; they deserved their awards those seasons
he ought to just be quiet and worry about ilgauskas back in the lineup on sunday for the cavs...ilgauskas and varejao
ilgauskas is a shaq dominated him the last time he played in miami
well, the heat might have a break tomorrow, just read that pavlovic (flu) and damon jones might not play tomorrow (strep) and the cavs are not that good
Shaq thinks anyone but him is a tainted MVP.
yea i know thank god hopefully our second option which is either eddie or posey will step up big
Shaq has a big mouth. Sometimes it's funny, most of the time he should just keep his big fat mouth shut; he was never that smart or tactful when it came to making comments. I'm sure he didn't mean to offend Steve Nash directly, he was just thinking about himself and the voters in relation to his MVP's, just because he's only gotten one . He's a fat-ass media clown.
" What does he mean by "tainted?" "
He meant something else, but his vocab is not large nor his choice of words precise.
I guess he thinks MVPs are players on teams that are defending champs and who are barely hanging on to an 8th seed in a ty conference and lost thier best player possibly for the season.
How do you figure? They won 2 games in the WCF. Pretty sure that's 2 games away.
So wait,
Shaq is a complete idiot...
And this is news, how?
It's obvious he doesn't have the mental capacity necessary to be an articulate individual. I'll give him a break on this as a tribute to his idiocy.
Shaq shoots, misses on MVPBy Jennifer Floyd Engel
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
GETTY IMAGES/JONATHAN DANIEL
Mavs forward Dirk Nowitzki can make Shaq eat his words.DALLAS -- Do not expect Shaq to sport his "Dirk for MVP" T-shirt anytime soon.
He seemed rather ambivalent about the campaign Thursday.
"I don't know," he deadpanned when asked if Dirk Nowitzki was a legit MVP contender. "I don't know how y'all give the award. That award has been tainted the last couple of years."
There was a mild attempt on my part to prod Shaq to define tainted. It failed. The interview traveled down typical, humorous paths, as usually happens with Shaq, until he stood to leave, looked back at me and started again with the tainted talk.
"Tainted. You know what I mean by tainted, you are a smart young lady," Shaq said.
I am. Or I can be. Sometimes. OK, every couple of weeks, I have a semi-smart thought. This must be my February moment because I know what tainted means without a dictionary.
And I also know the only thing tainted is the prevalent NBA thinking that the MVP must be a ball hog who sells a bunch of shoes and becomes a SportsCenter mainstay.
Dirk is not your Shaq Daddy's MVP, but he is a worthy contender. Just as Steve Nash was in 2005, regardless of what Shaq thinks.
This is what Shaq really meant by tainted. He meant the voters screwed up by giving the MVP to Nash rather than him in 2005, that Steve was not a prototypical winner, that Steve was not the best player in the league.
And while Shaq did not exactly say it Thursday, there will be many who believe an MVP for Dirk is likewise tainted.
This is not a racial thing, despite occasional jokes about Dirk being "The Other White MVP." This is a cred thing. Be honest: When you think of the best player in the NBA, you think LeBron and Kobe and D-Wade and Melo. They dominate the ball, the game, the headlines, the commercials.
What the league flirted with regarding Nash is the idea of the "V" in MVP -- what a guy means to his team and how he makes it better. It is on this concept Dirk would win the award this year, which is only slightly ironic because a couple of weeks ago D-Wade was questioning Dirk's Finals leadership.
In terms of trash talk, Shaq's was kind of lame. He was much better with his WNBA and Ericka cracks about Erick Dampier. Yet Wade's rip was much more personal. He was basically saying Dirk is not like us, and his "us" includes Jordan and Kobe and Bird.
These are the guys capable of putting a team on their shoulders and carrying them to a championship. He obviously does not think Dirk belongs in this group.
Do not think for a moment this does not bother Dirk.
Mavs coach Avery Johnson actually laughed when asked if little digs from peers actually matter. Of course, they do. When a player is ripped by another, he hears it and feels it and uses it -- hoping for the day when he can make the guy eat his words.
"I had a guy say the Spurs would never win a championship with me as point guard," Avery said.
Avery is friends with the guy now and did not want to call him out, but we will. He is Damon Stoudamire and, ooooh, did Mighty Mouse tick him off at the time, and it fed him.
"I think you should do that, you should try to prove your critics wrong," Avery said. "You should make people eat their words -- within the context of what makes your team better."
What this smart young lady knows for sure is Dirk eventually will, and there will be nothing tainted about it.
Jennifer Floyd Engel can be heard weekdays 9 a.m.-noon on The Little Ball of Hate Show on ESPN/103.3 FM.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/16781747.htm
Oh, well where's Tim Duncan's MVP for his rookie year? The Spurs went from 20-62 to 56-26, an improvement of 36 wins. If you don't have to take into account a mid season coaching change or decimating team injuries, I don't either. The Suns were as much a 30 win team as the Spurs were a 20 win team. The Spurs also didn't trade away their best player (and only decent point guard) in the middle of the 20-win campaign.
How about the fact that the Mavericks improved by six games the first season without Nash even in a tougher division? Since you can put forth bull disguised as evidence can I do it, too?
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