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    I'm not sure how many division les the Spurs have one in franchise history, but I would guess that its exponentially more than Dallas. But, really, who cares? Will any fan remember a few years into the future exactly which years their teams won division les? I don't have the time or interest to even look it up.

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    "We'll be ready when the 1st quarter of the Super Bowl starts," Manning said.
    The thing is, that's all the Colts have to play for at this stage.
    The coin toss is lost.

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    Spurs need to get the 3rd seed to avoid Houston or Utah in the first round.
    If the playoffs ended today, and assuming the favorites won here's how it would go:

    1st round
    Mavs v Denver
    Phoenix v NO
    Spurs v LA
    Utah v Houston

    2nd round
    Mavs v Utah
    Phoenix v Spurs

    So, the choice is between Utah/Houston or Phoenix. I would definitely take Houston or Utah. That first round matchup with LA is potentially a toughie too. I don't think you want to play Kobe in the first round.

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    Screw it, lets just give the rings to the mavs.
    They're doubting the spurs again.. Which is a good thing.
    who said the Mavs are doubting the Spurs? its one thing for fans and writers to doube the Spurs, but the Mavs are by no means doubting the Spurs. im sure every player on that team would agree that the Spurs are going to be their toughest opponent in the playoffs, even tougher than the Suns. the Mavs are much more focused than you give them credit for. they are far more hungry for the le than any team in the NBA.

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    Robert Horry doesn't have much left.
    Guess he missed those three threes last night, along with some pretty tenacious D.

    Maybe Robert can only bring it every other game, especially in back to backs, but I would exactly write him off as a has been just yet.

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    So, the choice is between Utah/Houston or Phoenix. I would definitely take Houston or Utah.
    You underestimate Houston (if they are healthy, they will beat Utah).
    You've said that Utah was easy because they are rankedd 22 in defensive efficiency, Guess who is first in this ranking ?

    That first round matchup with LA is potentially a toughie too. I don't think you want to play Kobe in the first round.
    I don't think you want to play Melo/Iverson in the first round.
    and it's not sure that lakers will have the 6th seed at the end of the season : they have struggled a lot lately.

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    I don't think you want to play Melo/Iverson in the first round.
    and it's not sure that lakers will have the 6th seed at the end of the season : they have struggled a lot lately.
    If Denver is still in the 8-hole at the end of the season, that means they never got it together.

    LA may struggle, but they still have Kobe. He can win one or two games all by himself.

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    You underestimate Houston (if they are healthy, they will beat Utah).
    No I think they are both about the same. One is deficient on offense and the other is deficient on defense. Houston is #1 in defensive efficiency and #16 in offensive efficiency.

    I know they may get better when Yao comes back. But I'd still rather play them than the Suns

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    LA may struggle, but they still have Kobe. He can win one or two games all by himself.
    Denver may struggle, but they still have Melo and AI. They can win one or two games all by themselves.

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    he's pretty much right about Horry.

    Horry has been awful in the playoffs three of the last four postseasons.

    Chances for him performing in 07 postseason like he did in 05 aren't very high.

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    The Nuggets are horrible defending the paint. I don't think they'll win no matter who they play.

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    That's a bad article. It comes off as sounding like the writer actually believes not only that the Spurs care that they won't win the SouthWest division, but also that winning the SW division is an automatic guarantee that the Mavs will beat the Spurs in the playoffs. I would think that if the Mavs and its fans and writers learned anything from last season it's that nothing is guaranteed in the playoffs. It's a whole other season that starts.

    Mavs didn't win the SW division last season and still made it to the Finals. Spurs had the best record in the West last season and won the SW division, but it didn't help them any in the postseason. So it's all a circular argument.

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    I may be wrong but weren't the Spurs 8 games behind the Mavs in either 03 or 05 following the break and ended up winning the division? I don't feel that the Spurs will win the division this year but I doubt that that is a pre-cursor to whats going to happen in the playoffs. And yeah playing for a championship is way more important than winning a division le.

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    If they meet, the Spurs will beat Dallas in the playoffs this year for three reasons.

    1. The revenge factor (Dallas, given their history, has never seen this before)

    2. Elson

    3. It will be in the WCF (not early enough to catch the Spurs looking ahead)
    .....

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    I may be wrong but weren't the Spurs 8 games behind the Mavs in either 03 or 05 following the break and ended up winning the division? I don't feel that the Spurs will win the division this year but I doubt that that is a pre-cursor to whats going to happen in the playoffs. And yeah playing for a championship is way more important than winning a division le.
    That's correct. It was in '03.

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    I may be wrong but weren't the Spurs 8 games behind the Mavs in either 03 or 05 following the break and ended up winning the division? I don't feel that the Spurs will win the division this year but I doubt that that is a pre-cursor to whats going to happen in the playoffs. And yeah playing for a championship is way more important than winning a division le.
    Good call comparing the current situation to a Mavs team with a different coach and a pretty different set of players.

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    The bad part of losing the division is that you have to go through both the Suns and the Mavs. That's a tough road no matter how you slice it.
    thats expected its the playoffs. but these Spurs have been through tougher tournaments goin thru phx. "laker dynasty" and the mavs in 03

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    Good call comparing the current situation to a Mavs team with a different coach and a pretty different set of players.
    I don't recall comparing the Mavs of 03 to the Mavs this year. I'm just making a point that you still play the games. To make a statement like "thats all they have to play for at this time" is pretty dumb considering that just about every team is the league is one injury or bad stretch from becoming average. Don't worry your Mavs will probably win the division but hopefully they won't take the mentality of some of their writers and fans and keep playing.

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    A business associate and friend of mine in Miami, and season ticket holder to the Heat, told me on Saturday after I offered my condolensces regarding Wade's injury, meaning that our agreed on plan of attending together each Heat vs. Spurs Finals game, should they end up facing each other, was up in smoke.

    I'm more humble in my expectations, but it was funny how he said that Dallas is a regular season winner, but playoff soft choker. He said he thinks San Antonio is basically gonna win it all. I was like "but Dallas has Avery at the helm, has a deep roster...." He was like "I repeat, they are regular season winners, playoff chokers."

    Now, this is just one fan's opinion, but it is a diehard Heat fan who also contributes to various Heat charities, so he knows intimately ownership and most of the players worth knowing. Its not like he's some teenaged scrub blowing out smack just to get a rise.

    I thought that was pretty harsh and funny. I told him I'd post his comments a Spurs fan forum. So here it is. Heat it up, serve it and eat it Mavs fans.

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    yup...i believe the stat was First team to go up 2-0 in the finals and not get a championship parade

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    "I repeat, they are regular season winners, playoff chokers."
    Unless someone gets hurt, the Spurs will be the ones questioning whether they can beat the Mavs this year. They Mavs already know they can beat the Spurs in game 7 on the road.

    At least your buddy will have a good excuse why the Heat didn't win it this year. He was going to need one anyway.

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    Okay, I'll stop stoking the fire. In all seriousness, I think regular season division les are ultimately meaningless, but I do not deny that Dallas is the favorite to win it all.

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    Unless someone gets hurt, the Spurs will be the ones questioning whether they can beat the Mavs this year. They Mavs already know they can beat the Spurs in game 7 on the road.

    At least your buddy will have a good excuse why the Heat didn't win it this year. He was going to need one anyway.


    I hear ya. I just thought it was kind of funny because he's all business then suddenly, adamantly was like "no way the Mavs will beat the Spurs again. No way...they are regular season winners, playoff soft chokers."

    But you are right. Mavs have scoreboard because they beat San Antonio last year.

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    yup...i believe the stat was First team to go up 2-0 in the finals and not get a championship parade
    Not exactly. The Philadelphia 76ers did the same thing during the 1977 NBA Finals versus the Portland Trailblazers. They streaked out to a 2-0 lead heading back to Portland. The Blazers regrouped and swept the next four.

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    So what's the big deal? I assume he is on the parade planning committee..

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    My family is back east and they say the same stuff. It's called East Coast bias.

    They know the Spurs can play because they have some skins on the wall. Until Dallas wins a le, no one east of the Mississippi will think much of them. And why should they?

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