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I'm not sure if this is the same severity as that time. In his rookie year, I think he just dislocated his kneecap; I don't think he separated his ligaments from it -- this looks much worse than that time.
It is easy to say that Livingston is done for the season.
I'm not sure if this is the same severity as that time. In his rookie year, I think he just dislocated his kneecap; I don't think he separated his ligaments from it -- this looks much worse than that time.
Yeah but I was just making a point saying, he had a dislocation of the knee and missed 39 games.
His entire knee was dislocated tonight.
For you to fully dislocate your knee, you have to pretty much fully tear every ligament in there. The closest I've seen to this was what happened to Antonio McDyess ... and it took Dice years to come back and be 50% of what he used to be.
Livingston has already been injury prone every year since he has been in the NBA, this just adds a lot more to it.
i got the gif.... pm me if yall want to see it..... s just gonna get taken down if i post
Why would anyone want to see the gif when there is youtube and nba.com
Whoa.........that is a very very bad. I have never seen this happen in basketball. I seen it in football, but not bball.
I had this injury happen to me in 03 when spurs won their 2nd le. Thought i would go out and hoop before game 5 vs Dallas and i went to tight rope the sidelines trying to save a ball and my knee just buckled. I ended up breaking my ankle at the same exact time too so it was fun and games all around. Whats funny is my knee hurt so bad that i had no clue my ankle was even broken till the Dr noticed how swollen it looked.
I hope he has a speedy recovery. I wouldn't wish that kind of injury on nobody.
lol i dont know bout you but i sure as cant picture a "speedy recovery" from something like that.
I don't normally get sickened by graphic stuff, but that did it to me.
And ESPN should probably give the "warning" more than one second before they show it.
Preety much safe to say, he will never be the same player.
He will be lucky to be a contributing bench player from now on.
Big difference from saying he's going to have one, to hoping he has one. Stop and think about that for a sec.
Did you see Shaun's face while being carried away? Just stoic. He must be really trying hard not to mind the pain.
For the record...that injury happens to me about 2-3 times per year in my right knee. Not usually as severe as that one, but I've had a worse one than that one...once. It happens to you when you have loose patella tendons/kneecaps and the knee cap doesn't always want to align in the bone slot.
First time it happened to me I was rock climbing at REI and was at the top of the wall....it was a very special 30th birthday present from mother nature.
Second time was when a snake came up on my right and I swiped at it with a walking stick...
The only time it's torn a ligament was once when I was snow sking...that ski boot kept any part of my lower leg from flexing and my leg just folded in at the knee when I stepped on some snow.
I laid there crying and screaming in the snow for a couple of minutes then fixed it myself...I got no surgery and just let it heal, but I know I tore at least one ligament because I had a limp for 5 months after that happened.
It's also the reason I don't play basketball of any kind....
The feeling you get when it happens is much more sickening than the actual pain and it's something that you become very aware of happening just out of the blue. Seeing your knee just collapse in like that, feeling it, it's a feeling that never leaves you once you get it.
He might have seriously injured his knee and permanently damaged it...but I'm betting it looks a lot worse than it actually is, physicially...
Mentally? That sickening feeling is going to stay with him for a bit, he'll probably start to be really comforted by the idea of a knee brace.
From a website:
Dislocated kneecap and meniscus
What is a dislocated kneecap and meniscus injury?
The kneecap (patella) is the bone that protects the knee joint. It rides in a groove at the lower end of the thigh bone (femur) and is held in place by muscles and tendons. A blow or sudden twist can dislocate the kneecap, causing it to move to the outer side of the leg.
The meniscus is a wedge of cartilage in a joint. There are two of them in the knee joint. They cushion and lubricate the joint and reduce friction during movement. The lateral meniscus is on the outer side of the knee and the medial meniscus on the inside. Twisting or over-extending the knee can cause a meniscus to tear.
What causes a dislocated kneecap and meniscus injury and who is at risk?
Dislocation of the knee cap is often caused by sports injuries or overstrenuous exercise. For example, a sudden change of direction when running, a sharp blow (such as a kick) or a fall may all dislocate the kneecap.
Although women are more prone to dislocated kneecaps than men, defective thigh bones, weak leg muscles or tendons and knock knees make dislocation more likely in both sexes.
Once the kneecap has been dislocated, it may happen again fairly regularly. Although subsequent dislocations may cause less immediate severe pain and swelling, they may cause chronic pain over a long period.
Twisting or over-extending the knee can cause a meniscus to tear, resulting in pain, swelling and restricted movement. A torn medial meniscus is more common than a torn lateral meniscus.
A torn meniscus is a fairly common sports injury. It is likely to happen when the knee is turned while partly or completely bent (by turning while rising from a squatting position, for example).
What are the common symptoms and complications of a dislocated kneecap and meniscus injury?
A dislocation causes considerable pain and tenderness, especially on the inner side of the joint. You will be unable to straighten the leg.
In some cases of meniscus injury, a distinctive popping sound may be heard when the injury takes place. You may also feel something snap inside your knee.
Swelling may develop several hours after a meniscus injury. There is often a build-up of fluid in the joint aggravating the swelling. There may be pain that gets worse when pressure is put on the area.
You may notice a 'catch' in the knee when walking, as though the bones are rubbing against each other.
That describes to a t what happened to me in the snow with hearing and feeling a pop.... ing meniscus...still relatively minor, but you do start to notice that something is ing with your knee cartilage.
And like that article says...once it happens? It seems like it starts to happen more and more.
I don't agree that it gets less painful with each time...the worst one for me happened 3 years after the first one.
In any case...I doubt it's a career ender for Livingston, at least physically, but it is something that might affect his confidence...then just as soon as he forgets about it...boom.
It takes huge balls to be a basketball player with that problem IMO, I'd rather water ski on a knee like that than play basketball, millions or not...Livingston has my respect for the rest of his playing career.
What you posted has to do with a dislocated kneecap. Livingston dislocated his freakin' knee. A dislocated kneecap is pretty common and isn't that horrible of an injury.
An entirely dislocated knee? I've never seen it this severe on a basketball court.
seriously, that's a legit take. like fillmoe, i had big hopes for the kid.
He's having an anteriogram (injecting dye into the arteries) to see if he has any artery/nerve damage and also an MRI to see about his ligaments, etc. Hopefully it just looked a lot worse than it is.
Hopefully it's not close to this bad:
Napolean McCallum
Anyone who watched the Monday Night Football season opener on Sept. 5, 1994 between the Los Angeles Raiders and the San Francisco 49ers at Candlestick Park remembers. 49ers linebacker Ken Norton Jr. tackled McCallum and in the pileup McCallum dislocated his knee, tearing three ligaments, ripping his calf and hamstring muscles from the bone, and incurring nerve and artery damage.
In surgery, doctors were concerned that if the operation did not go well, his leg could have to be amputated. In the end, McCallum endured six surgeries, including two knee reconstructions.
Maybe but what happens to me is pretty horrible...to me a dislocated knee cap is like hyperextending it...just where the knee cap pop out of it's groove.
That's not what happens to me...what happens to me happens because the knee cap pops out of it's groove...Knee folding in. And when it happened to me with a ski boot on it locked to the side and I had to move it forward to straighten it. And yes when you are on the middle of a ski slope and no one is helping you you will do it to get the out of there.
I looked up dislocated knee and it sounds like what happens to me...but I've never gotten it checked for any nerve damage. But after that ski slope my knee was blue and I limped on it for 5 months.
Me either...but to me basketball is the absolute last game you want to play with a bad knee like that. Just because of the herky jerkiness of the game.An entirely dislocated knee? I've never seen it this severe on a basketball court.
You know after watching that again...it's not just that he dislocated his knee, it's that he landed on it hard after he dislocated it and then rolled over on it and spun it sideways...
His knee didn't just bend in and dislocate at the knee, it dislocated at the knee and then rolled around on it's side.
The worst part of what happened to him happened after he hit the ground IMO.
Looking at that again...I will be kind of amazed if he didn't just tear everything in his knee apart when he landed on it and rolled over after it was dislocated....
Poor kid....my guess is that the reason he looked so calm going off is because he was partially in shock.
See i've had it happen 4 times after the first time I did it and they are painful but never had one as bad as the first. Then again I always wear a brace or sleeve when i hoop so that probibly helps a great deal
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