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    I suspect all you see is a black politician. Sounds myopic to me.

    That's all I see...

    Oh wait...a black politician, media darling, who just came on the scene 2 years ago, with a muslim name, who may have been raised in a Madrassas.

    That's what I see about him...

    ...when do I vote?

    My white guilt is kicking my ass.

    Next I say we open the borders...I mean we came here illegally, so why shouldn't others?

    Well, aside from the fact of...and how'd that turn out for them? I guess not much.

    Oh and that picure of him in the Ocean that was taken from the Kennedy school of Schmaltz.

    I can't tell you a single stance of his other than he largely has distanced himself from the traditional black leadership(a plus in my book).

    Why is that a plus?

    I will never vote for anyone I think is going to represent a speciffic ethnicity or race or gender at the direct expense of another....and if I do, it's going to be one that represents my race, ethnicity and gender.

    Now that's a plus Obama has that Jackson and Sharpton don't...

    But it is in no way comparable to the track record and long term recognition of McClain, Clinton, Guilianni, Clark and even Rice .

    It's simply not...he's a black politician, who does good photo opps on the beach, with an Islamic sounding name and background who rode the black vote to office 2 years ago.

    That's all he is to me....

    Blame the media. Pull the race card...whatever.

    It's the political reality he faces.

    It's his job to get his message out....and in this case, any publicity is not good publicity...the media is his worst enemy.




    Granted, there is a lot of media hype right now, but in a time when the electorate isn't very informed about the issues anyway, I don't think that works against him. Besides, his position on the issues will be get more attention as the election nears.

    You can get mad and call people stupid all you want...

    But here are the facts...

    He's black, that's a negative.
    He has a muslim/islamic sounding name...that's a negative.
    He's new...that's a negative.

    He will not get elected...kill the messenger if you like. But it's reality.


    It's his job to cross barriers of trust and communication...not mine, and the excessive media coverage over superficial issues is hurting him.


    No doubt, the Fox smear machine is already working on it. How he responds will be the true test, and so far he has come out OK.
    Oh yeah...the Republicans are the ones that invented smear...

    Jeezus...it's been a 8 year smear fest on W...


    I question the intelligence of anybody who reduces everything to simple dichotomies.
    Question it all you want...I am just laying reality out there for you.

    Want to put some money on whether or not a dude named Barrack Hussein Obama raised in a Madrassas is going to be the next President of the US of A?

    A county that just gave conservative redneck W 50+ million votes in the last election?


    Go ahead...question my intelligence, just make sure you show up on election night to own up.






    You forgot to mention "clean" and "articulate." Blacks have been cool to him, but lately they have been moving towards him (and away from Hillary). Is that enough to get him to the WH? Who knows, but he does seem to be gaining ground.
    He's no more articulate than anyone else in this election....maybe Clark.



    Who do you see beating him if he gets out of the primaries? Like I said before, it's a weak field and lots of voters are pretty sour with the status quo i.e. established Washington insiders.
    It's not a weak field...it's the strongest field since the 1980 election. It's one of the strongest in history.

    And should he wind up with the nomination...he'll lose to whoever got the Republican nomination.



    It's a long way till November. Republicans can write him off at their own peril.

    I'm just going to write him off 100% right now...you wake me up when something changes.

    Liberals have a severe case of beliving everyone else is as nutty as they are.

    Taint true...just be ready for that rude awakening.


    The 50 million that voted for W in 04 haven't had a mass change of heart and said...oh , those venom tongue hate filled libs that called us stupid and morons in 04 were right...

    That's not what is happening...people are just pissed we haven't won the war yet...that's not enough to get an unknown contoversial black politician with a muslim surname who is running in the losing party from the last election, elected President.



    And you are a ing fool if you think it is.

    Reality.

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    OMG, did you hear. Obama's Mom's ancestor's owned slaves......

    What must this mean??????

    Yeah, I know, dumb isn't it. But it is the vogue. But ever since
    Al Sharpton's "revelation" it is the "in" thing.

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    I can't wait to find out what you pretend will be the definition of "winning the war". Don't make us wait. Give us the answer now.

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    Gee Clam, you don't know what winning means. Figures!

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    Let's hear it ray, your definition. Or has rush not told you yet?

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    Winning is winning stupid. Like not losing. What part of that
    have you not figured out?

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    Let's hear it ray, your definition. Or has rush not told you yet?

    Would you rather live here or in Iraq?


    Thank you.

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    Let's hear it ray, your definition. Or has rush not told you yet?

    A 50-1 death ratio and the US military up the ass of every head country in the ME with full nuclear, naval and air capabilities....

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    Oh wait I get it...

    Europe doesn't like us... , we lost.

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    It's a ing war. I don't know what kind of casualtie figures you would consider as non failure...but I know that the number qualifies you as a complete idiot on the subject of war.

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    Gee Whott, it sounds more and more like you would have admired Hitler.

    Why don't you put your boots on the ground and practice what you preach?

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    Of course, don't forget, we are upgrading our "nuclear" weapons.

    Wonder how Iran feels about that???? LOL Ours already work
    and we are going to make them work better.........

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    Gee Whott, it sounds more and more like you would have admired Hitler.
    Admiring him is better than bending over so he can have at my virgin whole, which is your plan to make the terrorists like us... .

    God...you represent everything I hate about the modern white man.

    Go yourself.


    Why don't you put your boots on the ground and practice what you preach?
    Why don't you? America sucks? Leave.


    I put my boots on the ground when I re-elected W...that was a big you to the world, the terrorist and vile pathetic and disgusting self hating Americans with the political and historical a en of a dung beetle turd.

    A vote for W was simply a case of saying...go ahead mother ers...nuke us, just kiss your own ass goodbye in the process(this message was not sent to the terrorist, but to the leaders of the countries that spawn them and their curious methods of population manipulation).

    It does my heart good knowing that if you get nuked...it'll be my vote that caused it... . Leave if you are scared.

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    If Obama switches parties and says the first thing he's doing if an American city gets nuked is nuking Mecca off the planet...I'll vote for him.

    Swear to god.

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    I know 2 people who are going to vote for Obama no matter what. My roommate is obsessed with him. She read his book a few months ago and was hooked. She went to hear him talk in Austin either last week or the week before.

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    If Obama switches parties and says the first thing he's doing if an American city gets nuked is nuking Mecca off the planet...I'll vote for him.

    Swear to god.
    Which candidate says he'll do that?

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    Regardless of who is saying it...

    Guilanni and Clark will both do it.

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    I disagree. They'll suck royal Saudi like every other president as long as they can single-handedly bring down the price of oil. Plenty of other places to bomb if that's what it comes to.

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    The Saudis are going to be the one sucking unless they want to be the New Capital of Shia Islam.

    Clark is insanely obstinate...he's definitely not afraid of WWIII.

    You must not have been paying much attention back in 01 if you think Guilianni is going to be sucking any kind of ...think back...10 million dollar donation...

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    The Saudis are going to be the one sucking unless they want to be the New Capital of Shia Islam.
    So of they will be sucking our s, why bomb them?
    Clark is insanely obstinate...he's definitely not afraid of WWIII.
    Who?
    You must not have been paying much attention back in 01 if you think Guilianni is going to be sucking any kind of ...
    He'll probably suck alot of just to get the nomination, even though I think he doesn't have to. McCain a is already doing it.

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    I just don't understand why you haven't become more involved. Could it be that this forum is your only ounce of courage?

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    You must not be that confident if you are already resorting to nukes.

    You must have some doubt in what Bush has been saying.

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    I just don't understand why you haven't become more involved. Could it be that this forum is your only ounce of courage?

    You are probably right...which gives me one more place of having courage than you...Harem Girl.

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    Nukes are for pussies. I understand your attraction.

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    You must not be that confident if you are already resorting to nukes.

    You must have some doubt in what Bush has been saying.

    No I'm just not an idiot about the culture of the middle east.

    They don't respect a bunch of tree hugging pussies....that's what they hate about us.

    They don't hate many of the pretexts of our religious right...it's the same ing book sans the enlightenment.

    What they hate...are s, and artists, and compundable interest, and s who expose themselves, and religious, racial and ethnic minorities...and those pathetically out of touch lumps of in holly wood that epotimize American decadence to them...


    In short...they hate our liberals. That's why we are evil to them. And believe me...the ease with with you are manipulated by them in no way garners their respect only scares the out of them.

    They see the way the liberals work against this country and it makes them only more determined to supress their own. It pretty affirms to them why freedom is a bad thing.


    They realize the difference, it's you that doesn't. It's you that thinks Hitler is all of a sudden going to stop being Hitler and suddenly turn into John Lennon.


    That's the ones in power.


    They do have liberals...in their prisons, in hiding, out of power, and under the rule of those that were willing to fight for power.

    It's you that just don't get it. You can't negotiate with Hitler. Fool.

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